What makes me mad in Floyd County is...
By Staff
Monday June 5, 2006 4:45:45pm


Let us know what you are ticked about, and what you see as a solution to it.


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voterb
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Joined: 12/01/2007
11/20/2008 05:27:18 PM
It's up to three teachers now dismissed from the same Floyd County School. Walker Schools doesn't look so bad anymore.
 
voterb
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Joined: 12/01/2007
11/18/2008 06:38:30 PM
Floyd County Schools decided to take some of the news away from Walker Schools. Two high school teachers were removed for sexual misconduct with students. The one was accused of sexual misconduct last year and was transferred to a different school where he is now accused of a new incident. If it turns out that there was a complaint filed last year with the school and the school didn't act on it and pass the complaint on to the GAPSC and law enforcement as they are required there might be bigger repercussions for the school system, especially the superintendent if they were aware of a complaint and didn't take action. If there is any reason to believe that a student was abused, reporting is mandatory to law enforcement. If a teacher is in violation of professional standards reporting is mandatory to the GAPSC.

The great majority of teachers are great teachers, but the few exceptions show why it is important for parents to know the teachers of their kids and be involved in their education. No parent can watch their kids 24/7 but they can demand that the school systems have procedures in place to help insure accountability. The problem with Bart Huskey showed that having a clean record doesn't guarantee that a teacher or coach is safe. Parents can demand that teachers aren't able to spend time alone with students in inappropriate extracurricular activities. Parents can also demand that schools follow the procedures which are in place to help protect students, like mandatory reporting. Parents should also be aware that they can file complaints directly with the GAPSC if the school system doesn't respond properly.

Hopefully it turns out that the accusations are false and there wasn't any misconduct involving students.

 
QuietPlease
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Joined: 09/09/2008
09/09/2008 04:48:28 PM
Found today in the AJC - Maybe the City of Rome Police, Floyd County Police and Sheriff's Department should take notice and start enforcing the law in our town/county. It sure would make it a nicer place to live....Keep you Music to yourself.

Marietta to crack down on loud car stereos
By DERRICK MAHONE

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Tuesday, September 09, 2008

Marietta Police to motorists: turn your music down or face a $135 fine. Starting Friday, Marietta police will issue citations to people who blast their car stereos.

A growing number of complaints about loud music, particularly in the area of Victory Park, prompted the crackdown, said Marietta police spokesman Mark Bishop.

While Marietta police plan to enforce a state law declaring it a misdemeanor to play music that can be heard from 100 feet or more away, Cobb police will continue to leave it up to the discretion of officers.
 
OLDDUDE
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Joined: 04/03/2008
05/21/2008 08:52:14 AM
AS I STATED BEFORE I JUST REALLY DO NOT CARE FOR THE LEGAL SYSTEM IN FLOYD COUNTY, IN
THIS MORNING'S PAPER ONE OF THE LEAD ARTICLES WAS ABOUT THE HARPER-RENOYALDS TRIAL?
IN ALMOST FOUR ( 4 ) YEARS NEITHER ONE HAS HAD A TRIAL YET? WHAT TORTURE THIS MUST BE
FOR ALL OF THE FAMILY'S AND FRIEND'S OF EVERYONE. OUR LOCAL D.A. SEEMS TO ME TO BUSY OUT
CHASING COMIC BOOK'S, AND THE JUDGES NEED TO SPEED THING'S UP. WHY NOT GO BACK TO THE
OLD WEST METHOD OF JUSTICE, TRY THEM ON MONDAY, APPEAL THEM ON WED. AND HANG THEM ON
FRIDAY?
 
OLDDUDE
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Joined: 04/03/2008
05/20/2008 07:02:38 AM
what really tick's me off is the way the legal system work's in floyd county. anyone else notice that just
about every decision made by all the judges in floyd county get's overturned at the state level? and our
D.A. is really just a big JOKE.any conviction she just happens to get is pure luck. and does anyone else
every notice in the ROMAN RECORD EACH WEEK JUST ABOUT THE SAME NAMES APPEAR BEFORE THESE JUDGES IN ABOUT A MONTH THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE RIGHT BACK IN FRONT OF THE SAME JUDGES?
 
Intheknow
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Joined: 11/08/2007
03/20/2008 09:49:34 PM
Gee ... I wonder who will get the Superintendent position??? Does the Board think we are stupid??? Lord help us!!!
 
Intheknow
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Joined: 11/08/2007
03/20/2008 09:46:30 PM
Lord help the Floyd County School System!
 
GLADIATOR
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03/14/2008 10:33:30 PM
THE ONE THING THAT REALLY TICKS ME OFF IN FLOYD COUNTY, IS THE LOCAL POLITICAN'S, THAT WE SEND TO ATLANTA, AND BEHIND OUR BACK VOTE FOR WHAT THE LOBBIEST WANT NOT WHAT WE WANT. AND THE COMPLETE FAILURE OF THE LOCAL PAPER TO REPORT THEIR VOTE'S AND ACTION'S
BACK TO THE VERY PEOPLE WHO ELECTED THEM, SEEN IN THE ATLANTA PAPER, WHERE THEY VOTED
TO LET AUTO INSURANCE COMPANYS RAISE RATES WITH OUT FIRST CONTACTING INSURANCE
COMMISSINOR'S OFFICE, AND AS HE STATED THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM A ROOKIE,AND
DID NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE VOTING FOR. JUST GOE'S TO SHOW ONCE ELCTED IT'S ALL ABOUT
ONLY WHAT THEY CAN GET FOR THEM SELF'S, AND THE COMPLETE LACK OF ATTENTION OF NOT ONLY
THE LOCAL PAPER, BUT IT'S THE FAULT OF ALL OF THE LOCAL MEDIA'S NOT TO KEEP US INFORMED AS TO WHAT THEY ARE REALLY DOING TO US WHILE THEY ARE IN ATLANTA.
 
GOOFBALL
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Joined: 12/13/2007
01/09/2008 10:42:29 AM
ROMEGASIR. FIRST OFF SIR I DEEPLY APOLOGIZE TO YOU. I DID NOT INTEND TO OFFEND YOU
PERSONALLY. I WAS ONLY REFERING TO ONE COMMENT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT AFFORDING
COMCAST SERVICE ON SSI. AND I DID NOT READ ALL OF THE BLOGS LAST NIGHT,BEFORE I POSTED
MINE. ANY DONATION TO ANY CHARITY,BY ANY ONE PERSON IS A PERSONAL CHOICE. I WAS JUST STATING MY OWN PERSONAL BELIF'S IN WHAT CHARITY'S I CHOSE TO DONATE TO. I WAS NOT IN
ANY WAY COMPARING ANY ONE'S CHOICES TO MINE NOR WAS I TRYING TO ATTACK YOU PERSONALY
OR ANY CHARITABLE GROUP! IF YOU TOOK WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IN THE WRONG WAY SIR.
I AM DEEPLY SORRY. AND I DO REALLY WISH YOU THE BEST OF HEALTH.
 
romegasir
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01/09/2008 08:08:46 AM
Wasn't giving her a hard time, I tried to help her. I don't feel any need to prove or compare my charitable giving to yours.
 
GOOFBALL
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01/08/2008 07:48:24 PM
ROMEGASIR. I JUST GOING TO GET INT TO THIS DEBATE YOU ARE HAVING WITH ANOTHER BLOGGER
ABOUT HER FINANCES AND ABOUT HER DISABILITY, FIRST OFF FROM READING YOUR OTHER BLOGS
I TAKE IT THAT YOU ARE A FORMER POLICE OFFICER HERE IN FLOYD COUNTY, WHO LEFT THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU WERE UNHAPPY WITH YOUR PAY, AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND THE
AMOUNT OF PAY RAISES YOU GOT. THAT SAID YOU SEEM TO ME TO REALLY BE GIVING THIS BLOGGER
A REALLY HARD TIME FOR ASKING FOR HELP FOR HER CHILDREN AT CHRISTMAS TIME. SIR I HAVE
BEEN ON THAT SIDE OF THE FENCE TOO; I HAVE SEEN MY MAMA IN BAD TIMES GO BEG SO HER
CHILDREN COULD HAVE A LITTLE CHRISTMAS. AND AS A TAX PAYER WITH A JOB I HAVE PERSONALLY
RETURNED THAT CHARITY BY HELPING SOME ONE ELSE'S CHILD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHRISTMAS
AND GUESS WHAT I DID IT WITH OUT ANY TYPE OF PUBLICITY LIKE SHOP WITH A COP.WHICH I
AM NOT A BIG FAN OF NOR THE FOP. IN FACT I HANG UP ON THEM AS SOON AS THEY TELL ME WHO
THEY ARE CALLING FOR. OH; BEFORE YOU GET THE IDEA THAT I JUST DON'T LIKE POLICE OFFICERS
MOST OF MY FRIENDS ARE OFFICERS, OR FORMER OFFICERS, I JUST THINK IF YOU WANT TO HELP SOME ONE YOU WILL. WITH OR WITH OUT THE PULICITY! SHOP WITH A COP, IS JUST FOR PUBLICITY
AND ALL OF MY FRIEND'S KNOW THAT I FEEL THIS WAY. SIR MAY YOU NEVER SEE HARD TIMES AGAIN
AND BE PUT IN A SITUATION THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF HELP. AND MAY YOU BE
BLESSED WITH GOOD HEALTH ALWAYS.
 
DOGWOOD
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Joined: 11/23/2007
01/08/2008 09:44:32 AM
AS AN OLDER MAN I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE YOUNGER FOLKS THE TEENAGERS KEEP
PUTTING UP WITH ALL OF THE LONG - TIME POLITICIANS WHO KEEP PLACING MORE AND MORE
LAWS ON THE BOOK'S TAKING AWAY THEIR RIGHT'S, HEY IF YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH TO GO FIGHT
IN WHAT I BELIVE TO BE AN UNJUST WAR, YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH TO BUY AND DRINK A BEER.
AS WITH ALL THE LAW'S ON JUST OBTANING A DRIVERS LICNCE, ENOUGH ALL READY,
ACCIDENTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, SOMETIMES, TO A TEEAN AGER, SOME TIMES TO SOME ONE
IN THEIR 40'S SOMETIMES TO AN OLDER PERSON. ALL THESE YOUG FOLK'S HAVE TO DO IS THE
DAY THEY TURN 18. IS REGESTER TO VOTE AND DEMAND CHANGES, AND AFTER JUST ONE ELECTION
WHEN THEY HELP VOTE OUT 1 POLITICIAN WHO THINKS THEY KNOW WHAT'S BEST AND ALL THE
OTHER OLD CRONIES WILL FALL IN LINE REALL FAST.
 
romegasir
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12/02/2007 11:35:20 PM
yeah, i miss it every christmas belle. One year I had a momma trying to talk me into letting her get things she wanted, including a watch.........she wasn't very happy when I told her no. Most years though, it was decent people having really hard times. And I know that the Fraternal Order of the Police does some screening to keep out the fakers..........they don't weed out those with lazy parents, but I know they've caught a few lying about their situation. I don't know if maybe the parents told the kids to do it, but every year they were so lovey....they all want to hug, hold hands, etc....it's heartbreaking and heartwarming simultaneously. And everytime I thought I had it bad, those kids reminded me of how lucky I was and how I should strive to help others........

But a heart? now that's a stretch
 
failedbelle
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Joined: 01/11/2006
12/02/2007 10:37:29 PM
Sir has a heart after all. Will wonders never cease. I think it is very nice for you to offer to help nikki. I've heard about that program. I was once in K-mart snack area when the kids were pairing up with the cops a few years ago to shop. It seemed like they got as much out of it as the kids. Great program for kids who probably don't have role models. Great program for young people to get a more positive attitude about police. Some of them are probably struggling to get Christmas for their own kids so it's great for them to spend time helping someone else.

 
failedbelle
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Joined: 01/11/2006
12/02/2007 08:58:56 AM
to start off with no im not getting a check and im they one that stays home with my 2 kids .and i had them becouse i wanted them.their dady is getting his check off of what he paid in he was hurt bad at his job and wil;l never be able to work again and is not able to take care of my 2 kids so i stay home and do that .but no we dont always have hard times this is just one year that he had to go to doctor alot and i had alot of bills to pay that put us behind this year.so yes i did ask for help after all that is what its their for . but all i wanted everyone to know was what happen to me and no i dont have all day at my mothers i do see her every day becouse she does help me as much as she can.and my kids also get a check and it is added in $865.00 but i just no for now on how it is . same for if he could stay home take care of my 2 kids then he could work he cant even take care of him self right now so think you for all your time but after all if no one else cares if what they are giving is give to they reason it was give why should i that was they only reason i posted to start with but now im going to get back to taking care of my kids
 
fixem
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12/01/2007 08:47:28 PM
romegasir, thank you. i guess that did kinda put you on the spot. sorry i didn't realize that right off.

 
romegasir
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12/01/2007 08:42:34 PM
fixem........don't you know I'm an expert in EVERYTHING? LOL, you haven't been on here long have ya? Just joking. I really don't feel comfortable answering your question specifically. I will say this generally.............The Law allows you to break it (it, being the law) IF the breaking of the law is reasonable and necessary to prevent a tragedy, lessen the extent of a tragedy or if there is a justifiable emergency. I've seen DUIs thrown out of court because the drunk guy was taking his pregnant wife, in labor, to the ER.........actually I've seen that twice....i thought the court was wrong, but hey, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose............as far as your specific case, I won't say, but I've stated the law, you apply it ;-)
 
fixem
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12/01/2007 08:38:32 PM
romegasir, since you are obviously well educated in the le field, i was wondering if i could ask your opinion on something?.......... i will take that as a yes! anyway, say a person was awakened by a phone call at 4:00 in the morning by his/her alarm company informing them of an alarm at their place of business within the city. the city officers are requesting that they come and check the location for entry and to shut off the alarm. on the way there they are pulled over by a county officer for speeding ( 63 in a 45 zone ) on the west end coming into the city. they tell the officer the circumstances and that they knew that they was going a little over the limit , but was trying to get there as soon as possible because of the circumstances. the officer procedes to write a ticket and says that if the city was on the scene then it was secured and that they should not have been speeding anyway. is there any sense in that person trying to fight this or should they just go ahead and pay the fine? thanks for your time sir.
 
romegasir
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12/01/2007 06:16:48 PM
Oh I realize that, I wasn't being accusatory, you just have to realize that when you go to these traditional sources for help; churches, salvation army, etc that they are targets for scammers all the time and have to screen folks and sometimes weed them out.

I'm sure reading your posts that there are people right now wondering things like 1) does she stay at her mother's all day and that's why she's able to post? 2) If she can post online why can't she get a medical billing job or some other online job? 3) if her mother can afford high speed internet, why doesn't SHE take care of the children financially? 4) what would cause a man AND woman to BOTH be disabled and unable to work and take care of their children, but they're only getting disability for one? 5) why would a man and woman who are both totally disabled and living off $865 a month have TWO babies? one only 9 months ago. 6) Is it possible that since they're only receiving one disability check, that only one of them is disabled? and if so, why isn't he/she working while the other takes care of the kids.

It's not me asking that.........I believe ya........but I give all my charitable donations this time of year to Shop with a Cop..........but I do hope they do some sort of screening to weed out the scammers
 
romegasir
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12/01/2007 05:32:01 PM
and no im not taking anything off they should not jump thinking something like that they should ask.
i did not put my blog up for help! i put my blog up to let people know what happen to me when i did go for help!!!!!!!!!!!!! and as i said my kids are being help this year by a good loving church.and some more loving people but that is not what is being ask here.what i want to know is why should i had to go to find more help if.salvation army was doing want is supposed to be done with what their are getting for poor.if its being taken in for poor then why is poor not getting it. im sure im not they only one this has happen to.im also thinking of going to wbs with this so that all them people that dont have family and friends with comcast can comment also.and maybe i will find out why my kids was turn away this year.
 
romegasir
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12/01/2007 05:11:36 PM
but even that this is my mothers e mail and phone
i have seen alot be help with new cars ,new,shoes,new cell phones,
if i did not really need they help i would not ask for it
 
romegasir
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12/01/2007 05:08:13 PM
i mean that is my mothers e mail and phone
 
romegasir
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12/01/2007 05:03:26 PM
i dont my moma pays it
 
romegasir
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12/01/2007 12:14:25 PM
i wrote it down..I'll contact him this weekedn.......if you can figure out how to edit your post, I can sometimes and then sometimes I can't, you might want to erase that.

People are gonna wonder how you afford comcast service on SSI ;-)
 
romegasir
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12/01/2007 12:04:25 PM
pinklady01@comcast.net
home7062048452
 
romegasir
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12/01/2007 11:47:14 AM
Nikki, I'm sorry to hear that...........I'm sure it's something they do to try to weed out those who abuse the system. If you really want your children to have a good christmas. Call Det. John Glaze with the Rome City Police, 7062385100, and ask that he consider you for the Shop With A Cop program. They may already be full, I really don't know, but it couldn't hurt to ask. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, you can email me at jlrome706@yahoo.com and let me know your situation and contact information and I'll do it for you.
 
romegasir
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12/01/2007 11:40:41 AM
I am they mother of 2 kids 1 boy 4 years old girl 9 months old me and their dady live on $865.00 ssi check. i went for help to salvation army for my babys christmas. becouse it is all we can do to keep power on in our house this year.and i also ask for help from a church.and i get a letter in they mail saying that they salvation army has taken my babys off they list to help with toys this year ! becouse i ask that church for help also! i dont think that is right after all that is all my kids will be getting for christmas is what that church will help them with i just dont feel that it is right for salvation army to do that to no one and no kids should be with out christmas that is what they supposed to be doing with all this money that has been giving to them food schools are giving and toys.i just wanted to let it be know what they did to me and my kids for christmas so thats for they did for us for christmas
 
beckymc
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Joined: 07/24/2007
11/28/2007 11:00:13 PM
More than frustrating, it is downright sad.. One group of kids worked hard on their beautiful float this year for the Rome Christmas parade. Not just a few hours but a month of hard work. But they never saw the judges... that is because they judged 15 minutes before the scheduled time. Their float were in line by 5:30pm as per the Parade rules, but they judged at 5:15pm (as reported from other people involved with the floats and the parade.) Shame on them for not following their own rules, and as such not giving everyone a fair chance. I think an apology is due to these kids.

 
IrishRed
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09/30/2007 08:04:51 AM
You are correct on your explanation of sales msla and I will add one more. Two people, one possibly a minor. goes to the beer cooler and is looking in or pulls out beer and/or carries it to the counter. The clerk has the right to ask for ID on that
person as well as the person doing the actual buying. The excuse always is " I'm just carrying it ". Clerk has the right to refuse the sale. I have seen cases where the minor will go to the back pick it out and wait either up front or outside for the other person. I have seen clerks refuse the sale.

I have also seen an older man get out of a car full of kids and go in the store to buy beer. He was griping about them getting him up to go to the store so the clerk called the cops. When the guy left the store, he saw the cruiser and went the other way and went behind the store. Police called the parents of two of the boys, one was 15 and she came down and said that the guy was a family friend and they had permission to take him to the store. She allowed the kids to stay with this guy and leave. One more thing, the guy also got money from the kids because they didn't give him enough. When the clerk asked the cop about it, he said that they were sure that she was right about what was going on but since the mother vouched for the kids, they couldn't do anything. He said if he had time alone with them he could probably get one of them to admit it. The man who was buying it said that he went behind the store because he thought they would arrest him because he had been drinking earlier.

 
msla
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09/29/2007 06:23:18 PM
Brian, There are 5 forms of acceptable, legal Id's used in Georgia to buy tobacco or alcohol: driver's license, passport, green card, military Id, and the state-issued Id you can get the same place as the driver's license. There are absolutely no other forms accepted. If a clerk does accept something else and gets busted, tough luck. They are trained to use ONLY these five. No alcohol licenses are accepted. No professional licenses are accepted. No student Id's. ONLY the five I listed.

In addition, they must be valid. If the Id's are out of date, torn up and patched, look at all forged, have the picture missing (because all of these have a picture), or anything along these lines, it's the clerk's job to refuse the sale no matter how irate the customer gets. Something less known: a clerk has the right to refuse a sale to an out of state license, especially if there's no picture. But even if there is a picture, if a clerk is uneasy about the license being legitimate, the sale can and should be refused. It is the clerk who will be arrested. Same thing about a green card and the foreign names and languages.

Usually the problems arise from a different area. A clerk refuses a sale. The customer goes outside and gets somebody else in the car to come back in and try to buy the same product. The law says that because the clerk is fairly certain that the second person is really buying for the first person, the sale should be refused. Believe me, that's when people go crazy! They have gone crazy on probably every clerk ever to be a clerk for any real length of time. I've seen people walk right out the store door, go to the car, hand their money to the second person, talk for another second, and the next person walk in and ask for the same product time after time. What's really funny is if the product is a rare thing - as if anyone wants that thing very often! But clerks get so much grief it's unbelievable unless you've witnessed it. Working for the public is a hard job no matter what level it is!!

 
IrishRed
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09/29/2007 08:07:26 AM
The one I'm referring to is put out at the same place where licenses are issued. I believe they are $10.00.
 
IrishRed
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09/28/2007 06:32:40 AM
There is an ID card available in the state of Georgia that is sufficient for any purchase requiring an ID.

Maggie, now I understand why the people from Ooltewah were there, I must have missed that part.

 
averagejoe
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09/27/2007 11:18:32 AM
brian, why would you need a special id. Just use the forms of id accepted now.
 
maggie
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09/27/2007 07:00:44 AM
Irish Red, it was the Ridgeland-Ringgold game at Ridgeland and from what was on the news, it had something to do with someone from Ooltewah that dated someone from Ridgeland. However, the two students who were beat up had nothing to do with anything. Crazy situation!!!
 
IrishRed
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09/27/2007 06:01:50 AM
Tennessee has passed the ID law. People tell me that even before it was passed, bars and restaurants required it, no matter what age. People are still going to argue but you know what they say "no tickee, no laundry".

Tiger, there was also some new this week about some students from Ooltewah coming down to a game between LFO and I think Ringgold and beat someone up. I don not have all the details but these schools don't even play each other never mind being out of state. What's up?

 
Tigerfan
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09/26/2007 08:28:59 PM
P.S......... always enjoyed the Shrine game in the past........ really rivalry at it's best! But........ afraid it will be marred this year!

Same!
TF
 
Tigerfan
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09/26/2007 08:27:23 PM
Good evening: I just heard about the four football players , students at Coosa High School, who were arrested for gang related (aka The Riverside Gang) beating of a student in the parking lot at Food Lion in Armuchee. It sounds like there might not be a Shrine game this week-end after all....... or if so...... four of their stars will not be shining! This is so sad. However, I do agree with the "powers that be" that Floyd County Schools should maintain the "No Tolerance Act"...... even though this did not happen on school time. It is a slap in the face for the parents of these students to make such asinine decisions.
They do need to suffer the consequences of their actions....... even if it involves jail time. What has happened to our children, or their parents?
So much for my "venting" tonight!
Good evening to all of you ... my cyberspace friends!
TF
 
averagejoe
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09/26/2007 01:37:08 PM
One state has already done this. Tenn I think but I'm not sure.
 
romegasir
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09/26/2007 11:03:29 AM
irish, i agree with ya. Would make it easier on honest clerks, and harder on those unwilling to enforce the age limits.
 
IrishRed
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09/26/2007 07:44:07 AM
It would be helpful if a law was passed requiring ID for the sale of beer and cigarettes, would make things easier at the store level, no ID, no sale. I see people arguing all the time about it. I just got out of prison, I lost my license, the cops took it, you know me, My birthday is such and such. Well, I know when my birthday is too, doesn't mean I'm not lying.
 
Gadawg47
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09/24/2007 05:47:10 PM
Posted by Gadawg47 on September 24, 2007
I think if they don't build the work releasr center that they should repeal the splost tax, because that is why a lot of people voted for the splost to begin with and then the County Commissioners added there little projects in the mix such as new public works buildings etc... and caused the work release center to be over budget. The demolition did not cost the Count anything it was done with Inmate labor and all the scrap metal was sold and put in the splost account.
Posted by dfs724 on September 24, 2007
Are the alternative plans for the prison renovation legal as per specifications set forth on the splost vote?
I wonder is this another bait and switch like the splost vote to upgrade the lock and dam on the Coosa River?


 
Gadawg47
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09/24/2007 05:45:00 PM
Budgetary woes are sending the Floyd County Commission back to the drawing board for a work release center to house nonviolent inmates.

Plans to remodel the old County Prison on Black’s Bluff Road will cost nearly twice the $1.75 million dedicated to the project in the 2006 special purpose, local option sales tax package.

County Manager Kevin Poe is slated to present options to the board at its Tuesday meeting. Commissioners caucus at 4 p.m. and start their regular meeting at 6 p.m. in the County Administrative Building on Fourth Avenue.

“The problem is, the prison is bigger than we need,” Poe said at Friday’s agenda-setting session. “It’s expensive to do all that duct­work and electrical.”

His recommendation: Accept a low bid of $561,000 to redo the Public Works complex at the site and reject the $2.6 million prison renovation bid. Raze the prison — which was built in 1926 and replaced in 2003 — and put a prefabricated metal building in its place.



 
romegasir
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09/24/2007 01:55:52 PM
Brian, I've only met Paul Smith once and of course he seemed like a nice enough fella.....and I was impressed that he kept his home phone listed in the book. while I was an officer I called him one time and asked if he would consider copying some other states and implementing a Fleeing and Eluding Statute that included a felony (at the time, if you ran in a car from the police, as long as you didn't kill or seriously injure anyone, it was a misdemeanor). he thanked me for my opinion, but said he thought the law was fine just the way it was. I didn't like his answer, but at least he didn't fill me with smoke. A few years later, the law was changed, and now fleeing is a felony under certain circumstances.

By the way, I'm not sure which is worse.......a career politician as a local commissioner, or a business person as a commissioner using their office to further their business interests. Seems that's the two choices we always end up with. The local elections are not won by door-to-door politicking, they're won at the political party get-togethers at Western Sizzlin, among the Rome Bar Association and in the Country Clubs. I know a good fella who ran for commissioner, is as good a person as you'll find, went door-to-door and met just about everyone in this county willing to talk to him, is a smart guy with good ideas AND common sense.........he got beat ;-)
 
Ima D Scamp
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09/23/2007 02:01:07 PM
HI- Ima is still here reading as usual!

Ima
 
romegasir
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09/22/2007 11:22:56 AM
Brian, it's a government-owned business that is a monopoly AND sets its price based on needs of the government, rather than supply and demand. The people who run these types of departments, the department head I'm talking about, are like most all Americans.......they are looking out for themselves and their futures, so they are constantly resume building. Never know they MAY even want to run for Sheriff ;-) . And it's wonderful to go to a prospective employer or voters and say "look at me, I ran this department and the financial rating was A++"........and voters say "well I'll be, he is an economics guru".
 
romegasir
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09/21/2007 07:50:45 AM
Well, like I said, if the judge refused first offender for someone who only sold beer to a minor......then it's ridiculous, that's the type of thing that first offender is made for, not drug dealers (who get first offender regularly). I worked at a convenience store YEARS ago, and I can remember that people would sit in the car and send their kids in to get their cigarettes....when I'd tell them their parent had to come in, the parent would always come in angry...........not that I gave a crap.........................and I checked i.d. on everyone, even if they were 70, for beer purchases.....I finally started making exceptions for regular customers who I had sold beer to before and knew them......it became a joke amongst the regular customers........if I didn't card someone that was a regular, they'd joke around and say that I didn't think they looked young, etc.

One last thing about that..........all of the underage alcohol stings that I was involved in during my time with the department, we might get four or five stores to sell to us, and the rest, 20 to 30 stores would do the right thing...........which told me that the sting was fair..............we werent' using some fake i.d. that made the person 21, or dressing up a 19 year old to look like they're a 60 year old woman, nothing like that............we'd send an underage person in with no i.d...............................and we'd get four or five EVERYTIME we did it.

Brian, I love lively debates ;-)
 
msla
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09/21/2007 06:59:14 AM
Romegasir, Good morning!
This was not an isolated case - this happened to clerks by the droves. That is the point. Back then, all clerks, managers, etc., were refused the option of a first offender status. I was a manager and had a beer license in my name. We managers were very aware of what was happening to ourselves and our clerks. That's why this finally became a stink. The police were not the focus. The law and the first offender status was the focus. Now do you get it? I will check next week and see if this has changed. I'll be gone this morning.

As for me personally, I didn't say you directly called me ignorant. I responded that way because you do consider yourself educated on the law. We all do as well. But read your former post. You gave no leeway at all that perhaps you might not be correct in this area of offense. And indeed, you are wrong. At that time, there was no such thing for these sales people. In that post, your concept called me ignorant because the clerks might not have asked for first offender status. I thought I'd already been clear that it was not an option which was why this became a big deal - the entire point of jarring the Commission. Now I feel like I'm going around and around, do you? I'll check about the status now and let you know next week. Chat with you later....
 
romegasir
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09/20/2007 10:35:02 PM
msla..........i concede that you know more about this specific case than I....did any clerk do one day in jail?

The only time I've ever seen a judge refuse first offender (other than obvious reasons such as it's not a first offense) for a misdemeanor is when it is an employee who stole from their employer (the logic being that future employers should know that they are willing to steal from their employer).

I never called you ignorant. I actually appreciate that you can disagree and do it respectfully and intelligently. Can't believe you thought that I believed you were ignorant. Don't know why the judge refused 1st offender, but if it was a first offense, I think that is ridiculous.


 
msla
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09/20/2007 10:23:26 PM
Romegasir, My gripe would be the inequity of the sentence on the clerks NOT what the police were or aren't doing. But I did answer the direction you headed in and tried to explain things as they were. And no, the clerks could not, repeat, could not, repeat, could not get the first offender status. That's why this entire thing blew out of the water. Now do you understand why it was a big deal? And what my focus is even discussing this thing? And why I keep trying to clarify things? All you had to say was that you knew nothing about the uproar.

You can keep insisting anything and everything you want. And you can call me ignorant and try to back me down. But I will simply go back to the beginning and tell you the same thing: the first offender status is exactly why this went crazy. A clerk who didn't have a record or anything negative should have been offered this status at the bare minimum.
And by the way. You didn't need to make comments about the police and their stings like that. They're beneath you. Now have a good night....

 
romegasir
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09/20/2007 09:50:39 PM
msla, never meant to "minimize" anything OTHER than 'cops being babies because someone wants to see their ID" is not equivalent with committing a crime. period.

MSLA....I'm EXTREMELY familiar with the criminal justice system. Assuming you have no prior serious offenses...you are eligible for First Offender Status (and have been since the program began).....the problem is, you HAVE to ask for it...it's not offered to you...you must ASK for it........Lawyers hate it because they dont' trust their clients can behave.......but for misdemeanors, you only have to behave for one year and your conviction disappears.............BUT you can only use it once........can't have "First" offender twice....it's not an automatic thing just because it happens to be your first offense.....You have to ask the Judge for it. dont' get me wrong...........selling alcohol to someone who is 20 is an EXTREMELY minor offense in my opinion...............here's the problem and why attorneys recommend that you don't take 1st offender LOTS of times............suppose you ask for 1st offender and get it.....and then 9 mths later you sell alcohol to some undercover cop with a fake i.d.....guess what? You go to prison for a year...PERIOD....no exceptions, no Jena 6, no excuses.............So lawyers usually tell their clients to save their "first offender status" for the 'unlikely' event that they are charged with a felony.

My last comment (not totally just for this post haha, I'm not one of those bloggers who gets angry and says I'm not talking to you anymore) about this is : You seem to be criticizing the police for their enforcement tactics.........my question is: other than sending underage persons undercover to attempt to purchase alcohol, HOW ELSE would you check to ensure that stores are complying with the law? I'd really like an answer to that, but I don't really expect one.

I'm going to assume, unless you answer differently, that you think they should send in 3 year old wearing pull-ups to attempt to purchase alcohol, to test these clerks?
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