Confederate month plan advances in Georgia
Monday March 19, 2007 9:47:27am
ATLANTA -- A panel of Georgia lawmakers signed off Thursday on a plan to create a Confederate heritage month, even as legislative leaders reacted coolly to a push to apologize for the state's role in slavery.
A bill by Sen. Jeff Mullis of Chickamauga would dub April as Confederate History and Heritage Month to honor the memory of the Confederacy and "all those millions of its citizens of various races and ethnic groups and religions who contributed in sundry and myriad ways to the cause of Southern Independence."
The unanimous vote by the Senate Rules committee — which sent the plan on to the full Senate for consideration — comes days after black lawmakers announced plans to ask the state to officially apologize for its role in slavery and segregation-era laws.
Virginia's legislature last month passed a resolution expressing "profound regret" for the state's role in slavery, and lawmakers in Missouri and Congress have proposed similar measures.
Democratic Rep. Tyrone Brooks, chairman of the Georgia Association of Black Elected Officials, said it's discouraging to see the Confederate month proposal moving ahead after leaders of the Republican-controlled House and Senate said they're not in favor of apologizing for slavery.
"Georgia needs to recognize and apologize and atone for its part in the slave trade, as Virginia has done," Brooks said. "Until we do, I think there will continue to be resistance from African-Americans and others who are serving in the General Assembly" to efforts like Confederate month.
Mullis, a Republican, said his bill was not a response to the slavery-apology movement.
"I'm from Chickamauga, so it seemed pretty appropriate for me to do something to commemorate the War Between the States," Mullis said. His family owned land at the site of the Battle of Chickamauga, the Civil War's second-bloodiest battle and the South's last major victory.
Mullis has supported efforts to create a Civil Rights History Month in Georgia but opposes a slavery apology. "If I had done something personally, yes, I would apologize," he said.
The state's branch of the NAACP called the push for a Confederate month hypocritical.
"Although the supporters of the Confederate history bill feel responsible to honor the past deeds of their ancestors through official governmental action, they resist all notions that they have any responsibility to apologize to their ancestors' victims through official governmental action," said Edward Dubose, president of the group's Georgia chapter. "That reeks of hypocrisy."
Brooks, who said black lawmakers plan to officially introduce their slavery legislation next week, said he hopes Mullis' bill at least will encourage discussion. He said he's not necessarily against the idea of a Confederate month — as long as similar recognition is given to the state's black history.
"All of Georgia's history should be promoted and respected and highlighted," he said. "Hopefully this will lead us into some meaningful dialogue."
A bill by Sen. Jeff Mullis of Chickamauga would dub April as Confederate History and Heritage Month to honor the memory of the Confederacy and "all those millions of its citizens of various races and ethnic groups and religions who contributed in sundry and myriad ways to the cause of Southern Independence."
The unanimous vote by the Senate Rules committee — which sent the plan on to the full Senate for consideration — comes days after black lawmakers announced plans to ask the state to officially apologize for its role in slavery and segregation-era laws.
Virginia's legislature last month passed a resolution expressing "profound regret" for the state's role in slavery, and lawmakers in Missouri and Congress have proposed similar measures.
Democratic Rep. Tyrone Brooks, chairman of the Georgia Association of Black Elected Officials, said it's discouraging to see the Confederate month proposal moving ahead after leaders of the Republican-controlled House and Senate said they're not in favor of apologizing for slavery.
"Georgia needs to recognize and apologize and atone for its part in the slave trade, as Virginia has done," Brooks said. "Until we do, I think there will continue to be resistance from African-Americans and others who are serving in the General Assembly" to efforts like Confederate month.
Mullis, a Republican, said his bill was not a response to the slavery-apology movement.
"I'm from Chickamauga, so it seemed pretty appropriate for me to do something to commemorate the War Between the States," Mullis said. His family owned land at the site of the Battle of Chickamauga, the Civil War's second-bloodiest battle and the South's last major victory.
Mullis has supported efforts to create a Civil Rights History Month in Georgia but opposes a slavery apology. "If I had done something personally, yes, I would apologize," he said.
The state's branch of the NAACP called the push for a Confederate month hypocritical.
"Although the supporters of the Confederate history bill feel responsible to honor the past deeds of their ancestors through official governmental action, they resist all notions that they have any responsibility to apologize to their ancestors' victims through official governmental action," said Edward Dubose, president of the group's Georgia chapter. "That reeks of hypocrisy."
Brooks, who said black lawmakers plan to officially introduce their slavery legislation next week, said he hopes Mullis' bill at least will encourage discussion. He said he's not necessarily against the idea of a Confederate month — as long as similar recognition is given to the state's black history.
"All of Georgia's history should be promoted and respected and highlighted," he said. "Hopefully this will lead us into some meaningful dialogue."
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Comments: 20 Joined: 03/15/2007 |
03/29/2007 08:05:00 PM
Georgia once supported the idea of slavery. Was it right, was it wrong? History tells us it was wrong. The question now becomes; how do we fix it or does it even need to be addressed? White, European, Christians were once very evil...........God bless you all. |
Comments: 1608 Joined: 03/14/2007 |
03/29/2007 02:08:35 PM
One of the legislators should introduce an amendment, law, rider, etc that would cause the GA legislature to meet weekly, for the next 100 years, and all legislators must bow on their knees and apologize for Georgia's slave history. That way, everyone that votes against it could be labeled a sympathizer, and it by chance it passes, it ties up anyone in the legislature every week. Imagine taking a week vacation with your family and when you return the headline is "Representative Smith decides that a trip to florida is more important than the suffering endured by slaves." By the way, Jews were enslaved for a millenium, relegated to the lowest social class throughout European history (the original ghetto), and had an extermination attempt carried out against them 80 years AFTER slavery was abolished....yet, they are a successful people |
Comments: 618 Joined: 01/19/2007 |
03/29/2007 06:24:57 AM
I don't know by number or percentage who owned the most slaves. The majority of people in the South probably did not own slaves. It also depends on what you call a "Yankee State". I have heard that Virginia was a "Yankee State". In reality many of the states you call that are really midwestern states. Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, and Michigan are part of the Midwest. The only true Yankees are from New England. By the way that doesn't include N.Y. As far as Ted Kennedy goes, he has done some stupid things but so have other politicians. He has done many good things also. If you are going to boot the rich politicians, you need to take Bush with them. Not only because he's rich but his Connecticut blue blood ancestors are too, including his father. Having money isn't the problem, it's how they spend ours. "Cut the Pork" includingbridges to nowhere in Alaska. |
Comments: 627 Joined: 07/24/2006 |
03/28/2007 04:10:55 PM
Teddy Kennedy? Remember Mary Jo K. He didn't do anything to support her.When Democrats raise my middle class taxes and call me rich, I don't call that support. Especially when the money is wasted on pork barrel projects. |
Comments: 20 Joined: 03/15/2007 |
03/28/2007 11:53:42 AM
I thought Kennedy stood up for the poor and fought for the oppressed. There's no doubt most all politicians are rich but there are a few who support the middle class; usually a Democrat. |
Comments: 627 Joined: 07/24/2006 |
03/28/2007 11:29:36 AM
So, there were no rich people in the South? What about the plantation owners?And, if we are not going to elect the rich, then we can boot the Kennedys and Heinz-Kerrys (and all other rich Democrats) out of office as well. Would also disqualify some of our local Democrats as well. |
Comments: 20 Joined: 03/15/2007 |
03/28/2007 11:00:42 AM
Standing up against city/rich/upper class people???? Why then do we continue to elect Republicans |
Comments: 75 Joined: 04/09/2006 |
03/27/2007 06:27:54 PM
Accurate -- would include the massive fact that more slaves were used in the Yankee states, very very few southern people owned slaves.Confederate history is about working class Americans standing up againts the city/rich/upper class people. The yankee states wanted to control and TAX southern states. |
Comments: 627 Joined: 07/24/2006 |
03/27/2007 12:42:17 PM
This bill is apparently dead. So probably no apology either. |
Comments: 20 Joined: 03/15/2007 |
03/25/2007 09:25:19 AM
Get a clue folks. Its not about celebrating our cultural heritage; its about a simple minded politician trying to get more votes. |
Comments: 5 Joined: 08/18/2006 |
03/25/2007 06:56:10 AM
I can't apologize for something I had nothing to do with. I had no slaves nor wanted any. |
Comments: 1 Joined: 03/24/2007 |
03/24/2007 11:30:00 AM
way to go jeff!!!!!! |
Comments: 7 Joined: 07/23/2006 |
03/23/2007 10:08:20 AM
Amen to Bert's last comment. I am proud to be from Georgia. Never wanted to live anywhere else! (Or even visit, for very long.) |
Comments: 1554 Joined: 01/08/2006 |
03/23/2007 07:02:26 AM
Irish Red, You hit that nail on the head, predjudice is learned, it is not something we are born with. If you have ever been in a room of young children of various races, etc. they absolutely do not pay any attention to their differences. Too bad we can't keep that childlike quality of acceptance when we are older.Bert, I too am proud of being from the South, although not always proud of everything that has happened here. However, mistreatment of people for whatever reason was not and still isn't exclusive to the south. |
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03/23/2007 06:08:27 AM
Bert, you should be proud of being from the South. They fought for what they believed in. There are those who don't know how to act right no matter what color. I've only been here five years and I have found the majority of black and white have treated me right. I was brought up in a mostly white area but I was not taught to see people by color but how they acted toward me. Kids don't pay attention to the differences unless they are taught by their parents or culture to do so. |
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03/22/2007 07:38:41 PM
still, it dont take away from me being proud to be from the land of dixie! i never said that i was pro slavery though or had any ill feelings toward anyone but those who dont know how to act right. no matter what color they are. |
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03/22/2007 03:45:23 PM
catoosa, got to admit that i dont know it all. went and looked up the missouri compromise and made for some interesting reading. |
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03/22/2007 01:32:57 PM
Time to bone up on your history, Bert. Ringgoldone is right on this one. The hostility between the states over the issue of slavery began years before the war. As each new territory became a state, there was a huge brouhaha over whether it would be a "slave state" or a "free state." Of course most of this was economic. (Most all wars are economic, when you get right down to it.) But there was a moral element as well. The abolitionist movement was growing. Ever heard of the Missouri Compromise? That happened decades before the Civil War. How about the Underground Railroad? The Fugitive Slave Act? Uncle Tom's Cabin? |
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03/22/2007 11:53:02 AM
ringoldone, i dont know whjere you are getting your information and really dont care, but if you look a little deeper you will find that the only reason that slavery was brought into the war is that the north saw that as a way to cause more troubles for the south and to cripple the economy therefore making it easier for defeat. again to honor those who fought and died is not glorifying the war. |
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03/22/2007 11:02:07 AM
One of the ways we learn to make things better is to acknowledge when there have been wrongs in our past. It is not right to glorify a war that involved immoral ownership and treatment of human beings. I know the issue was states' rights, but the main right in question was the ownership of slaves. The North was headed toward industrialization and the South saw the right to own slaves (cheap labor) and to extend slavery to the western states as the only way they could compete in the marketplace.But the bottom line (North, South, East or West) is that no one can have ownership of that which God created (and that is everything). The fact that we didn't learn this lesson was perpetuated in the segregation of the 1950's. It was and is morally wrong to deny basic human rights to someone because of skin color. And many of those people are still alive today. I still say if our skin color was different, we would feel differently about Civil War heritage. We need to walk a mile in their shoes. |
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03/22/2007 07:14:23 AM
Well said Irish Red, we can be proud of our heritage, no matter what it is and still tell the truth and leave out the hate. As you said, we are all Americans. |
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03/22/2007 06:58:17 AM
Speaking as a Yankee, I would have to agree with you. Apologizing for slavery is not the answer. If you do that then you would have to apologize for what happened after the war here in the South. That wasn't right either. If you want Confederate History Month, that's fine, just tell the whole truth slavery and all. It was not totally about slavery, it was about state's rights also. However, many of you down here need to get over it. It's been over for more than a hundred years, it's about time people stopped using it as an excuse to hate Yankees and blacks. Last I knew we were all Americans so lets focus on the imprtant things. |
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03/21/2007 04:09:20 PM
Thank you, Bert. |
Comments: 183 Joined: 12/13/2006 |
03/21/2007 03:20:29 PM
exactly maggie, very well said. thank you |
Comments: 1554 Joined: 01/08/2006 |
03/21/2007 03:06:31 PM
Slavery never was right, but why do the states owe anyone an apology? Where will it end? If Ga. apologizes for its part in slavery, then they need to apologize for their part in the removal of the Cherokee Indians. Then, I guess we need to find ancestors of General Sherman and have them apologize or better yet make restitution for all the homes and businesses that he destroyed during his march through Ga. Oh, and I suppose we should also find the ancestors of the slave ship owners who went to Africa and got the slaves in the first place and have them apologize. Then, I guess we should also track down the ancestors of the tribes in Africa who helped sell their fellow man into slavery and have them apologize. While we are at it, perhaps we can have England apologize for the Revolutionary War and then we can have all of the ancestors of those who had indentured slaves aplogize. Where will it end???My heart aches over the travesties of the past, but that is where they belong, in the past. While we don't need to forget the past, we don't need to dwell on it and we need to look forward and work to make our future better for all Americans. |
Comments: 183 Joined: 12/13/2006 |
03/21/2007 02:39:19 PM
i am not saying that slavery was right. by no means. i do have enough sense to know what families on both sides went through. that is just it! both sides had families that suffered more than any war time in history. the ones that i have a problem with are the ones that get on a rampage about the south every time something comes up about the confederate states wanting to honor those that fought and died. we as a nation are stronger because the war changed the direction that both sides were headed. i am a southerer by birth and am proud of it. my ancestors were southerers but i dont try and make out like i was the one that suffered personally because of the war. my ancestors were southerers but did not own any slaves. does that make me owe anyone an apology? still i feel for the ones that were mistreated but none of them are alive today. |
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03/21/2007 02:06:58 PM
Bert, the apology has been requested from the state, not from every or any white man. Southerners (white and black) fought on both sides. I was just reading about a family in which the father and two sons fought for the Union, while a third son fought for the Confederacy. That's how divisive the war was, and still is. I don't see anyone here condemning Confederate veterans or their sacrifices. I believe we should honor those who fought on both sides. In many ways it was the Civil War that put our new country to the test, like a pot being fired in a kiln. Courage and honor and valor were not lacking on either side. We don't take anything away from those veterans by saying that slavery was a moral wrong. |
Comments: 183 Joined: 12/13/2006 |
03/21/2007 01:35:56 PM
i just guess that some people think that every white man back then was slave owners and that was the only reason that the civil war was. looks like they would go and do a little research and get the whole story behind the war. there were alot of people both black and white that fought and died against the northern invasion. the war was started over the federal government attempting to control everything that the individual states had any say so in. it was NOT over slavery. before the start of the war there were as many if not more northern slave owners than southern ones. it was STARTED in the north. that is where the money was at the time. the american flag waved over that part of the land during the time that slaves were owned up north but you dont hear anyone trying to get it done away with. people before you start condeming the confederate veterans and their sacrifices please study your history books. |
Comments: 627 Joined: 07/24/2006 |
03/19/2007 10:44:49 AM
Confederate History and Heritage month should only be celebrated if the history is accurate regarding slavery. If we are going to celebrate the past, then we need to include the failure of our predecessors to protect the basic rights of all citizens regardless of skin color. |
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