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lincoln
Comments: 44
Joined: 02/05/2008
02/12/2008 09:39:10 PM
Hoosier,
I've always thought that young men and women should take a year off between high school and college (or whatever their life endeavor). In my opinion, it would give them a better appreciation of life in general. Too many young men and women rush into college, immature and unaware of the world around them. They feel they must get a degree as fast as possible in order to make their "fortune".

But, I don't feel the government should get involved in this. This should be left up to the states and local communities. They should be the ones that educate our youth on life's opportunities.

You know that Obama has the help of JFK's speech writer. Sounds like the Peace Corps deal, another government program that taxpayers will be asked to pay for.
 
hoosiermama
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Joined: 11/14/2007
02/12/2008 08:23:39 PM
Wow. Another reason to like Obama. I have always liked this sort of idea. As a youth, I chose to serve my country with military service, but not everybody wants to do this sort of thing. And to be able to offset some of the college debt that a lot of kids incur when pursuing education is going to really help some families out that struggle with providing secondary education for their children. Can't totally back it yet, but it and he definitely deserves another look.
 
lincoln
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Joined: 02/05/2008
02/12/2008 12:12:46 PM
is anyone "debating the fair tax"?
I bought a book on it today. I know Hoosier was. Anyone else?

 
maggie
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02/12/2008 11:23:05 AM
Diogenes, if you find a good place to hide, let me know!!!
 
Diogenes
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02/12/2008 11:13:04 AM
bygracethrufaith,

Yep, I decided to change my look, for now. I may need to go under cover, in case someone is looking for me.

By the way, it is a beautiful sunny day, but that is probably just a government trick to get more people to go outside so they can spray them with experimental mind control chemicals, or disease germs so they can run up the stock value of the major drug companies.

Best to stay inside, with a hat on.

Well, the miracle soap, and magic elixir business must be in a slump. Probably not enough people interested in the Paranoid Pyramid Scheme to keep it going enough to keep someone busy.



 
bygracethrufaith
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02/12/2008 10:02:34 AM
You're quite welcome lincoln (wouldn't really happen to be your birthday would it? lol)

Hey, I know, if I call the media and tell them that lincoln is alive (you know, kindof like "elvis") and that you've been sighted on a blog site, then perhaps they will talk about you more....

Nah, probably wouldn't work. These pitiful candidates are much more important that our nation's history, right? lol.
 
bygracethrufaith
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02/12/2008 09:59:31 AM
Diogenes, the fearless lion. lol. You changed pics on me...didn't recognize you!

Yep...I've been telling everyone for years that everything is a conspiracy. Sadly, no one listens. lol.

To be honest...if I could move my family out to the country and raise everything we eat, I would be one happy camper. But for some of us, that is just not an option at the moment. I'm not "embracing" the world that I have been put in, but I think that I'm trying to make the best of it, that's really all any of us can do in that situation.
perhaps one day, I'll be greeted at the door by the prize patrol with a million dollar check. Then I'll make MY own water. :)

A side note on the "miracle soap." Some one gave me a supply of the stuff one time. Used it for quite a while (it was free, what the heck) --never saw the first miracle. :( But I suppose all the millions that have been healed while using it would disagree with that statement, huh?
 
lincoln
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02/12/2008 09:10:08 AM
thank you Grace
The Potomac Primary is getting more media time than my birthday!
 
Diogenes
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02/12/2008 08:51:18 AM
bygracethrufaith,
Good morning, friend. It sounds like we need to move to a different country, drink bottled water, wear aluminum foil hats, stay indoors all the time, and only eat what we grow ourselves.

Have you heard about the Paranoid Pyramid Scheme website ? It's mission is to spread unfounded fear amoung the gulible public, and provide paid up members a chance to buy magic elixers, and miricle soap. The best part is for every $210 you round up, you get a $50 dollar reward.

 
bygracethrufaith
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02/12/2008 08:35:33 AM
Happy Birthday, lincoln.

LOL.
 
lincoln
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02/12/2008 07:48:34 AM
I agree that the media controls many aspects of our society. In elections, they dictate who will be the "chosen" one. They also tells us what we will or will not hear about worldly events: other country's politics, economics, and struggles. Sadly, many people base their opinions off what the news says verse what they should investigate and form opinions from their investigation

 
lincoln
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02/11/2008 09:26:49 AM
surprising results from this weekend in the primaries and one Republican race still open (as of 7AM this morning)

Good to see newcomers playing a part in the election and the washington "establishment" getting a run for their money.

Still think that Hillary is going to win Ohio and Texas (that will get her nomination) and McCain will pick up the big states too.

Only issue that stands in either candidates way of the White House is who they pick as VP. That could make or break each party's chances
 
bloggeye
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02/10/2008 04:21:10 PM
Edwards was my man. After some deliberation I have decided to go with Obama. It's not an anti-Clinton vote, but I think Obama would be a better opponent against the Republican candidate. Republicans will get energized to run against Clinton. When H. Clinton originally voted for the war I disagreed with her. I had my reservations about the honesty of the Bush administration. My beliefs have been since proven true. We, the American people of today and future generations, cannot afford another Republican administration.
 
catvoter
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Joined: 08/10/2007
02/10/2008 01:18:07 AM
AmericanCitizen

I think it's best to research a topic by looking at all sides. My position was not blindly Republican. My position is that I want school property tax eliminated, IF it can be done wisely.

I'm not a fan of Speaker Richardson at all. He has been a total jerk in his removal of our 9th District legislators from their leading Committee positions due to their voting for Mike Evans for the DOT Board. Given a chance, I would not vote for Richardson. And I do not quote him.

Some links that are interesting:

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2007_08/fulltext/hr900.htm
This is a link to the draft of the actual HR 900 bill. Certainly not the final issue of the details. But does show some promise and good potential. There are things I don't like, but some things really make sense.

http://www.legtracking.gmanet.com/BillDetail/Default.aspx?RDBTN=HR900
Surprise, surprise ... this reference from the Georgia Municipal Assoc. has taken a position against the GREAT plan; but also clearly, and mostly Independently, spells out some of the good and bad ideas of the current draft.

"Rebate"? Of course you would have to file a GA state tax return to get a rebate. How else would the State know where to send your rebate? But what I read here is that any legal GA resident that files a return would be given a rebate for much of the sales tax. Every legal resident seems to be eligible to get a rebate on the grocery sales tax. The rebate is referred to as a tax credit, it is not referred to as a tax deduction; a big difference. Does that not mean that even if no income was made, and no taxes paid, that person or family would still get a refund equal to much of the new sales tax they paid out? A win, win for both the elderly on small fixed incomes and also those with lower income.

The links above clearly show that no sales tax is proposed for business to business transactions and services. A 1% tax was considered but does not seem to be a threat now.

Some of this GREAT tax also seems to be similar to parts of existing tax programs in both South Carolina and Florida.

Even with the GREAT tax program, it seems it would still be favorable for TN residents to shop in GA.

As a border County, Catoosa would continue to benefit from the difference in the 7% in Catoosa vs. the 9.25% in Chattanooga.

I also like the idea that the existing LOST, SPLOST, and ESPLOST tax may also be collected on the added taxable services. Catoosa County could gain several million a year on that alone. SPLOST money builds sewers, roads, recreation, etc. ESPLOST money builds schools and under the proposed amendment the new ESPLOST money could also be used for much needed school maintenance projects. LOST money directly decreases the general County property tax digest, dollar for dollar, and that means further reduction in the property tax for cities and county general revenue (aka the County Board of Commissioner's tax for County road maintenance, Sheriff's office, jail, etc.)

While there are things that need much improvement, the GREAT tax idea has some very good merit.

Please share any links you have to Independent sources like the above links. We agree that we should get facts not only biased half truths.

2nd issue "JBT political dribble". The "handful" was the number of votes she got in the last election for GA State Representative. She needs to get over it. She lost. The voters did not agree with her platform. However, she does do a passable job of writing about family issues and I hope she continues that path.
 
ATLANTABURNING
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02/10/2008 12:49:33 AM

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Kucinich threw them out of his office.

Dennis now faces the toughest election campaign of his entire tenure in congress, with huge amounts of money being spent to turn his constituents against him due to “his neglect of his district while he ran for president.”

So yes, Virginia, it is exactly as you suspected. This man the mainstream media say is not relevant, poses such a threat to the powers that be that they are hellbent to destroy him, and remove that troublemaker from congress.

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CSS4Comm4
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Joined: 10/09/2006
02/10/2008 12:23:14 AM
How bad does the economy have to get? How in debt does our government have to get? And, how underfunded does public education have to get before North Georgia wakes up and realizes that the current elected officials are destroying our counties, our state, and our country?

The most ignorant mentality in the world exists here in Northwest Georgia. I have heard people actually say, and unfortunately believe, that they don't care about the national debt being so enormous that our great grandchildren will never be able to pay it off, or that our sales tax could very soon be so high that we won't be able to afford basic necessities, or that home foreclosures are at an all-time record high, or that the unemployment rate is at an all-time high, or that we are being stripped of our constitutional civil rights by our own government, or that the price of gasoline could reach $5.00 per gallon, or that more and more senior citizens cannot afford the medications they need to keep them alive, or that thousands of American soldiers are getting slaughtered in a senseless war, or that our injured soldiers are being housed in deplorable conditions when they return to the US, or that the oil companies, the insurance companies, and the pharmaceutical companies are continuing to make billions of dollars at our expense, as long as they oppose abortion and don't let gays marry.

Unbelieveable!!!

Remember that there are three types of people in the world. Those who make things happen. Those who watch things happen. And those who wake up one day and wonder what in the world happened. Which one are you?
 
AmericanCitizen
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Joined: 10/12/2006
02/09/2008 10:13:28 PM
catvoter,
You obviously do not know how to research a topic. There is plenty of information, most by Speaker Richardson himself, on HIS GREAT Plan.

Not rumor. Have not got a clue as to where you are getting your information. To get a "rebate" I believe you have to file a return. How many senior citizens make enough to even have to file a return?

JBT may get only grief and laughter from a "handful" of insignificant bloggers but she is getting positive reviews and accolades from a large number of people in Northwest Georgia.

Keep it up JBT. Always enjoy your "well researched" viewpoints. It is obvious that many have not mastered the art of "researching" the topic before they go spouting off quotes they know nothing about!

AC
 
catvoter
Comments: 100
Joined: 08/10/2007
02/09/2008 07:45:18 PM
JBT

Your comments below need to be more clear.

JBT says "Businesses do not base pricing on cost. They base it on supply and demand. So if costs suddenly rise, that does NOT mean they can easily raise their price unless everyone else does. And if costs fall, businesses will not drop their prices unless forced to do so by other businesses."

Do you mean service businesses, like your computer services? Do you base your prices on "whatever the market will bear"?

That may be typical of some service businesses like consulting, but don't most retail businesses in Catoosa County consider that "cost + markup = price"?

Doesn't Babb Lumber consider their cost of raw materials, plus cost to cut, dry & process, then add a markup to sell at their wholesale price?

Then doesn't the retail lumber yard look at their cost of obtaining that lumber from Babb, add some fixed and variable costs of the store, add a markup for their gross profit margin and that determines their suggested price?

Supply and Demand do have a great influence on sales volume. Didn't the light weight block business not work out because the cost was too high, there was no profit margin and the price could not be raised because there was not enough demand at the higher price? The price killed the demand.

I would think every retail store considers cost + markup = selling price.

Now, markup may vary by a business depending somewhat on supply and demand. For example if a store ends up with too much inventory that doesn't sell, they may very well decrease their markup to get rid of product. BUT they are very aware of where their costs are.

As costs go up or down, a business may re-think their margin rates. If a business thinks they can sell more volume by reducing margins, their total profit may rise because they sell more units. Where do you think Wal Mart gets some good prices? They buy higher volumes at cheaper costs, keep tighter margins, and make a bundle! Volume discounts occur in most businesses, both at the wholesale and retail levels. Buy a pint of milk and a gallon, look at the differnce in price per ounce.

Prices are very much determined by costs.

Brief point on your wild rants on FAIR and GREAT taxes. The GA GREAT tax plan seems to be still in the concept stage. Nothing in detail has been printed by the GA legislature. Your rants are based on rumor and your Democratic bias as usual.

No where has anything been said that suggested the legislature was going to put a sales tax on businesses raw materials that are re-sold at the wholesale level. GREAT taxes seem to all point to taxing at only the retail level.

Also the legislative comments have leaned toward allowing low income residents to get rebates on sales taxes, thereby not being a regressive tax on the elderly, fixed income or lower income residents. That may mean the GA GREAT tax will help the elderly and lower income residents since they may pay no school property tax and almost no extra sales tax.

The biggest problem with a GA GREAT tax may be that so many people will want to move to GA to benefit from no school property tax that the roads, services, and construction will not be able to keep up.

People compliment you on your articles on the family, etc. You get nothing but grief and laughter from your unique points about politics and economics.

Please stick to the home and family.
 
bygracethrufaith
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02/08/2008 09:01:56 PM
Huckabee is supported pretty strongly by Kenneth Copeland....the same Kenneth Copeland who is refusing to turn over his account records to the government for investigation...

The Copelands have already given over $29,000 to his campaign, and a few weeks back, they also raised quite a bit of money (not sure of the amount) at a conference with several other ministries affiliated with Copeland. Huckabee also appeared on Copeland's TV show a few months back...

---All this courtesy of the CBS evening news...

Doesn't seem to be such a good idea for Huckabee to associate himself with this heritic who is using the word of God to rob people...
 
JBT
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Joined: 10/03/2006
02/08/2008 06:14:02 PM
Why is it again that businesses are going to magically lower their prices? Oh, because they won't pay income taxes. But only profitable businesses even pay income taxes, and it often takes a new business several years to become profitable.

Besides that, many of these GREAT tax or FAIR tax plans depend on forcing businesses to pay tax on the raw materials and services they buy! If that element is included, businesses will be hurt.

And here's the other problem: Businesses do not base pricing on cost. They base it on supply and demand. So if costs suddenly rise, that does NOT mean they can easily raise their price unless everyone else does. And if costs fall, businesses will not drop their prices unless forced to do so by other businesses.

A nationwide FAIR tax is a horrible idea. But a statewide GREAT tax is an even worse idea, because Georgia businesses compete with Tennessee and Alabama businesses. A statewide GREAT tax will damage Georgia's economy in a bad way.

As others have stated, this system may benefit the super-wealthy and big, highly profitable corporations. It will hurt small businesses. I daresay it will hurt most of the participants of this blog, who probably get back much of what we pay in income taxes anyway.

Oh and on the state level, one thing people keep missing is that eliminating the GA income tax also eliminates the credit you get for paying it on your federal taxes! There's really no way the federal govt can give us a rebate on all the sales tax we pay all year.

Jeannie
 
lincoln
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02/08/2008 06:07:18 PM
is it safe to blog in this room?
 
hoosiermama
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02/08/2008 03:58:31 PM
Here's just a tad more information for businesses.

Never mind. Link doesn't work. Just google stimulus package 2008 or tax rebate 2008 and you'll get quite a few hits.
 
hoosiermama
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02/08/2008 03:56:10 PM
Haven't heard about any timetables for improvement, but I kind of wonder if that many people are actually in the mood to spend, spend, spend. We're going to put some towards bills and save the rest. Sure hope that doesn't sound unpatriotic of me, but just need to get a little extra cushion around here.
 
lincoln
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02/08/2008 03:52:23 PM
Thank you.
I need to round up the neighborhood kids and claim them as mine (joking)
Good info on the site hoosier and thank you grace.
Singles get hit for not being married, but they could contribute as much as married.
I wonder if they have any timetables on when they expect to see if this helps the economy?
 
bygracethrufaith
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02/08/2008 03:37:06 PM
Lincoln,
From what I understand, it's like $300-$600 per person (adult) and $300 per child...

I'm not certain at all of that though. Just what I've heard.

Brian can probably tell the exact details.
 
hoosiermama
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02/08/2008 03:36:50 PM
Lincoln: http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/07/news/economy/stimulus_congress_finalagreement/?postversion=2008020722

Looking at a May-ish time frame. The business aspect looks pretty vague to me.
 
lincoln
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02/08/2008 03:31:38 PM
does anyone know anything about the tax rebates we are supposed to get or if they voted on them yet?
Do you get so much per child, anything for business owners included, is how much you get based on income level?
 
doctorofed
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02/08/2008 11:09:55 AM
I would say Republicans starting early as they can!
 
hoosiermama
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02/07/2008 04:54:57 PM
Yes, Brian. I was a long-time resident of Indiana. Lived much of my life 50 miles southeast of Chicago in a small, but wonderful town called Crown Point. Lots of snow there....bbbbrrrrrrrr

My brother-in-law is one of those people that caught without insurance. About 3 years ago, he suffered a heart attack at age 45. Had to have a stent put in and spent about a week or so in the hospital with part of that time in Intensive Care. He and his family are in bankruptcy proceedings right now. They hope there is a way they can manage to stay in their home, but they're not sure. Not everybody is allowed to just "write-off" their hospital bill without serious consequences contrary to popular belief. I don't know what the criteria is for that to be honest, but you can bet that my brother-in-law wished he knew.


 
hoosiermama
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02/07/2008 01:29:22 PM
Romney is out now, too. I didn't care for him much anyway, so not a big deal as far as I'm concerned.
 
hoosiermama
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02/07/2008 11:09:18 AM
Brian, as far as the blood pressure cuff incident, the nurse may not have thought you were medicaid when she made that statement. Durable medical equipment, like a blood pressure cuff, which will be used again for different patients is not usually billed to a particular patient. Maybe she just meant that the hospital would "take the hit" if it was lost.

 
hoosiermama
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02/07/2008 10:45:17 AM
Well, unless, I'm missing the point (which is entirely possible), wouldn't price regulation also be considered government control? I'm all ears on this subject. I have made it clear that I am more than happy to listen to all sides, since I am having a difficult time making a firm decision on this issue. Is there anybody in Washington that is proposing legislation or something to control costs, etc. I will do my research if somebody will point me in the right direction.

Thanks in advance.
 
hoosiermama
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02/07/2008 09:26:03 AM
Diogenes
I agree with much of your post, however, the following statement is somewhat erroneous:

"Hospitals won't refuse treatment to someone because they can't afford to pay. They treat them, and pass their over inflated charges on to other people."

Hospitals are only required to stabilize patients with TRUE emergencies, then they can transfer patients out to other hospitals willing to accept them. Hospitals deny treatment for non-insured patients with conditions not considered as true emergencies all the time. Sad, but true.
 
Diogenes
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02/07/2008 09:12:53 AM
American,

Certainly, something needs to be done about healthcare delivery in this country, but I do not think a government managed insurance plan is a good solution. Healthcare in this country has increasingly become a profit driven business. Competition in this "business" has nothing to do with pricing, as it would in almost any other business, because hospitals can charge whatever they damn well want to charge.

If you need open heart surgery to stay alive, it is going to cost you, or your insurance company, a vast fortune. If you don't have insurance, they will just pass along their ridiculously high charges to someone else who does.

Thirty five years ago, when my first daughter was born, my wife was in the hospital for a week, and I paid the entire bill out of my pocket because we did not have insurance. Nowadays, the average person could not possibly afford to pay for a week in the hospital out of their own pocket.

My wife had her knee replaced last year, was only in the hospital two nights, and the hospital bill, not the doctor's bill, was over $55,000. The doctor's bill was separate, and just as ridiculous, but how in the heck does the hospital get away with charging more than I paid for my house for a three day stay in a glorified hotel ???

They rob us, because they can. When you need a hospital, you need a hospital. You can't just decide "This heart attack hurts, but I think I'll go shop around for a better price"

Hospitals won't refuse treatment to someone because they can't afford to pay. They treat them, and pass their over inflated charges on to other people.

There is a vast difference between "cost" and "price". It doesn't cost $50,000 to put someone in a bed for three days, and check on them every two hours, but they aren't bashful about charging that much for it.

The only kind of government involvement that I would agree with would be some effective form of regulatory oversight on these costs, requiring justification of prices based on actual costs, and a restructuring of existing laws designed to prevent hospitals from refusing to care for people who can't afford to pay.
 
hoosiermama
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02/06/2008 09:11:22 PM
AmericanCitizen,

I understand what you are trying to say. The short answer is "spin". Republicans heard the word "garnish" and quickly jumped on that and suddenly we have the daily soundbyte. You are right, of course, about payroll deductions for health insurance. I think the difference is that a payroll deduction would be voluntary, but garnishment is usually involuntary.

Yes, you are right. There was more to the discussion than just "garnishment".
 
AmericanCitizen
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02/06/2008 09:05:54 PM
My point was, when you listen to the interview, there is more (explanation) to it than just a one sentence sound bite. And that is only one example of what methods might be used. How many people,
today, have a payroll deduction for health insurance? I mean, it's not a new idea.
 
lincoln
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02/06/2008 08:03:45 PM
American:
The quote came from her interview on ABC's sunday show: ??This Week?? w/ Stephanopoulos.

The quote was carried by several major media outlets, including the liberal AP.
So, if you want to find the source all you have to do is type in "Hillary Clinton and garnishing wages", you'll find all the quotes and video you need
 
AmericanCitizen
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02/06/2008 04:41:34 PM
Dio,
Just wondering if you think anything needs to be done about healthcare delivery in this country.
 
Diogenes
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02/06/2008 03:43:24 PM
Old eyes and stiff fingers. Excuse the typo, I meant "whiskey"
 
Diogenes
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02/06/2008 03:39:42 PM
Taxes - It's like giving car keys and wiskey to teenage boys.
 
Diogenes
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02/06/2008 03:37:47 PM
So, remarks about Hillary's investment tips remain a big sore spot for democrats, as would "undocumented" remarks about Clinton real estate ventures would be.

My main complaint about Hillary has nothing to do with whether or not she is a crook. I am more concerned about her socialistic stance on just about everything.

I, like many others, feel the Federal government needs to be less involved in my personal life, not more so.

Every time the Government steps in to "do something" for you, you can bet your choices are about to become fewer. Every time the Federal government comes up with some new social program, you can feel the fingers reaching into your pocket.

I paid over 10,000 dollars in income taxes last year. I would have to take out an installment loan to spend that kind of money on myself, but the government just takes it right out of my check. I am not too happy about this situation, and I sure am not looking forward to a government Health Care plan being forced upon me against my will.

 
AmericanCitizen
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02/06/2008 03:12:16 PM
Stand by everything I have said, D
 
bygracethrufaith
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02/06/2008 03:12:09 PM
Wow, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. lol.

AC,
I'm sure the folks you are blasting would love to hear your explanation instead of your derogatory comments toward them.

If you want the "truth" to get out instead of what you are calling "undocumented" comments, then perhaps you may want to let others know what your perception of the situation is.

I haven't read what everyone is talking about, so far all I know is that they are talking about it, and you disagree, but I don't know why. In other words, I don't have the "whole picture" so why don't you give it to me instead of cutting folks down for thier opinion.

That doesn't help at all.

Looking forward to your explanation of why you believe the people making these statements are incorrect.
Thanks.
 
AmericanCitizen
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02/06/2008 03:08:29 PM
WES STATES: "I want affordable health insurance. Who thinks it's ok to price someone out of the market if they might have a pre-existing condition?"

Based on simple math. Would you operate a car insurance company that gave the same flat rate to a safe driver over a twice convicted DUI driver?


Come On, Wes - Can't you come up with a decent example. DUI drivers have lost their priviledge to drive based on their actions. Are you implying there are Ameicans out there who have lost their right to have affordable healthcare? Please explain
 
Diogenes
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02/06/2008 03:06:13 PM
American,
It doesn't take long looking through your previous posts to find out real quick who spouts off just to agitate. Some pretty antagonistic stuff there. BTW my source was your very own comments, one of which I think applies easily to the Clinton campaign, even though you used it about Perdue.

"How can anyone,Republicans included, put someone back in office that is a blatant crook ?"


 
AmericanCitizen
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02/06/2008 02:43:18 PM
Before you start posting about "garnishing wages" you need to listen to the interview and get the whole picture. You all do just what I expect; go spouting off with a sound bite, short one-liner, just to agitate.
Typical. You can't discuss the Clinton campaign without popping off about "investment tips" and other
"undocumented" comments. We all take them for what they are worth.

Seems like if people were repeating valid statements they would document where their information came from.
 
romegasir
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02/06/2008 02:00:24 PM
Obama is ahead in # of delegates? Do you have a source?
 
wes
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Joined: 04/09/2006
02/06/2008 01:37:55 PM
"anyone read where Hillary said she would garnish wages for healthcare if she is elected?"

I've read a quote from her that said wages would be garnished. It would be funny to see people riot when the get a paycheck with a negative amount in the Red.

 
Diogenes
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Joined: 01/31/2006
02/06/2008 01:28:17 PM
brian1222 "word out is that Clinton is running low on cash and has had to dip into personal funds."

Maybe someone will give her an investment tip, just in time (cattle options ?).


 
lincoln
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Joined: 02/05/2008
02/06/2008 08:56:11 AM
surprising results from last night.
Huckabee looking like the VP candidate for McCain.
McCain will need someone that can carry the South.... McCain can win the Northern states and out west.
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