Does Walker County need a five-dog limit for pet owners?
Wednesday January 16, 2008 12:52:49pm
LAFAYETTE, Ga. -- Stephen Thompson, who has openly criticized Walker County’s handling of stray animals, said the county needs to adopt a five-dog limit on pet owners.
The lack of such an ordinance, Thompson said, is “making the supply of dogs exorbitant.”
“You only need a license if you are planning on selling,” Thompson said.
“Without restrictions on the number of dogs, the euthanasia rate is what it is, a slaughter of 150 dogs per week at the Walker County animal shelter,” Thompson said.
Commissioner Bebe Heiskell said she’s willing to look at such a measure, but it must be feasible and it must have public support.
“I am working with groups right now and we are looking at making changes,” Heiskell said, referring to recent talks with animals rights citizens.
A five-dog limit, she said, does not seem to have public support.
“I have got to find a happy medium …. ,” she said. “… I have got to do what’s right, but I need to find a way to be legally satisfactory to the community I serve.”
“It’s a very difficult situation we are dealing with,” Heiskell said.
Are current regulations enough?
“I am not in favor of putting a limit on the number of dogs that people have,” Walker County animal shelter director Alison Smith said. “I am in favor of people becoming more compliant, people becoming more responsible, people more aware of the greater need.
“If people complied with the present laws,” she said, “we would have no need to make others, and this shelter could close down because the county would have no need for an animal control facility.
“There is not compliance, by the community, of the rules that have been established for animal welfare. The laws work, if the pet owners comply,” Smith said.
Smith said it only takes complaints from two neighbors to initiate action against a pet owner.
There are also state laws that must be followed, Smith said. For example, if a pet owner is breeding 10 or more dogs, then the state requires the owner to have a kennel license, Smith said.
According to Smith, animals that are collared and tagged have a greater chance of being placed back in the home than ones running loose and with ID. Spaying and neutering is still a strong solution, she said.
“There is no such thing as a stray animal. If that animal is in your care for five days, it is your animal and your responsibility to place that animal, to put that animal down, or to assume responsibility for it,” Smith said. “If it (the animal) runs out in front of someone and they wreck, then you are liable. If it bites somebody, you’re liable. And if you don’t want that liability, then you must assume the responsibility or place it.”
Costs of implementing a five-dog limit must be considered, Smith said.
“The more rules you have, the more it requires manpower to enforce,” she said.
The shelter has three animal control officers.
“So we are going to ask for more taxes to hire more animal control officers to supervise this county and the number of animals they have?” she asked. “That’s not fair and it is not fair to the people who are responsible pet owners.”
Chief animal control officer Curtis Patterson strongly disagrees with Thompson’s claim about the number of dogs being euthanized at the shelter.
“I would say, on the top week, 30 to maybe 40 dogs are euthanized,” Patterson said.
Most of the dogs euthanized are feral, he said, while most of the normal dogs are adopted.
Do other counties have five-dog limit?
According to Catoosa County animal control division shelter director Darla Proctor, Catoosa has a five-dog-per-property limit. The limit keeps down “hoarders,” which is the collection and mistreatment of a large numbers of dogs, she said.
“We rely heavily on it (the five-dog limit),” Proctor said.
According to Dade County clerk Don Townsend, Dade does not have such an ordinance.
According to Chattooga County clerk Martha Tucker, Chattooga does not have the five dog limit. “We are looking into that for the future, but nothing as of right now,” Tucker said.
Smith maintains that counties like Catoosa have the limit on animals due to the smaller amount of acres, as compared to a larger and more rural Walker County.
The lack of such an ordinance, Thompson said, is “making the supply of dogs exorbitant.”
“You only need a license if you are planning on selling,” Thompson said.
“Without restrictions on the number of dogs, the euthanasia rate is what it is, a slaughter of 150 dogs per week at the Walker County animal shelter,” Thompson said.
Commissioner Bebe Heiskell said she’s willing to look at such a measure, but it must be feasible and it must have public support.
“I am working with groups right now and we are looking at making changes,” Heiskell said, referring to recent talks with animals rights citizens.
A five-dog limit, she said, does not seem to have public support.
“I have got to find a happy medium …. ,” she said. “… I have got to do what’s right, but I need to find a way to be legally satisfactory to the community I serve.”
“It’s a very difficult situation we are dealing with,” Heiskell said.
Are current regulations enough?
“I am not in favor of putting a limit on the number of dogs that people have,” Walker County animal shelter director Alison Smith said. “I am in favor of people becoming more compliant, people becoming more responsible, people more aware of the greater need.
“If people complied with the present laws,” she said, “we would have no need to make others, and this shelter could close down because the county would have no need for an animal control facility.
“There is not compliance, by the community, of the rules that have been established for animal welfare. The laws work, if the pet owners comply,” Smith said.
Smith said it only takes complaints from two neighbors to initiate action against a pet owner.
There are also state laws that must be followed, Smith said. For example, if a pet owner is breeding 10 or more dogs, then the state requires the owner to have a kennel license, Smith said.
According to Smith, animals that are collared and tagged have a greater chance of being placed back in the home than ones running loose and with ID. Spaying and neutering is still a strong solution, she said.
“There is no such thing as a stray animal. If that animal is in your care for five days, it is your animal and your responsibility to place that animal, to put that animal down, or to assume responsibility for it,” Smith said. “If it (the animal) runs out in front of someone and they wreck, then you are liable. If it bites somebody, you’re liable. And if you don’t want that liability, then you must assume the responsibility or place it.”
Costs of implementing a five-dog limit must be considered, Smith said.
“The more rules you have, the more it requires manpower to enforce,” she said.
The shelter has three animal control officers.
“So we are going to ask for more taxes to hire more animal control officers to supervise this county and the number of animals they have?” she asked. “That’s not fair and it is not fair to the people who are responsible pet owners.”
Chief animal control officer Curtis Patterson strongly disagrees with Thompson’s claim about the number of dogs being euthanized at the shelter.
“I would say, on the top week, 30 to maybe 40 dogs are euthanized,” Patterson said.
Most of the dogs euthanized are feral, he said, while most of the normal dogs are adopted.
Do other counties have five-dog limit?
According to Catoosa County animal control division shelter director Darla Proctor, Catoosa has a five-dog-per-property limit. The limit keeps down “hoarders,” which is the collection and mistreatment of a large numbers of dogs, she said.
“We rely heavily on it (the five-dog limit),” Proctor said.
According to Dade County clerk Don Townsend, Dade does not have such an ordinance.
According to Chattooga County clerk Martha Tucker, Chattooga does not have the five dog limit. “We are looking into that for the future, but nothing as of right now,” Tucker said.
Smith maintains that counties like Catoosa have the limit on animals due to the smaller amount of acres, as compared to a larger and more rural Walker County.
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Comments: 160 Joined: 10/09/2006 |
02/09/2008 11:45:25 PM
My wife and I don't have small children at home. Or kids are grown and our dogs and cats have become our family. So, don't tell me how many pets I can have and I won't tell you how many kids you can have. If you want such laws, move to China where they are already enforced. Otherwise stop letting communist suppression slip into our government. We are already losing our civil rights on a national level. You take care of your household and I'll take care of mine. |
Comments: 59 Joined: 02/09/2007 |
02/09/2008 12:02:08 AM
Well, I see the interest here has faded. It is funny how we are like a fresh lit match. Rapid burning anger and desire for change for one brief second and smoking charred remains the next. |
Comments: 3 Joined: 01/22/2008 |
01/26/2008 12:18:13 PM
Sorry for being long winded, but this animal issue is a deep passion. There is such a great need. My heart soars to know that there are more than pot stirrers in this area. it would be so very cool to have the community embrace the shelter in a positive way. Shelter workers could like their job, could have hope and this would greatly benefit the animals at the shelter. I'll be at the next NGAL meeting.......those who are coming , let's bring a friend !!! |
Comments: 15 Joined: 02/15/2007 |
01/24/2008 11:00:43 PM
Just logged in and it seems to me that the gauntlet has been thrown by 'Shadow'. I see that 'Gabsmom' and 'Hotdog' seem interested in making a difference. If I get onboard too that would be four more people helping the North Georgia Animal League (according to their website they are already working toward solutions to these problems). According to the person who answered my email to them they need help raising money for spay and neuter assistance, help with workdays at the shelter, grant writing, educational programs, community/pet activities, adoption days at the shelter, and possibly adding to and better defining local animal laws and helping the county with setting up a licensing/tag program. Another option is volunteering for the shelter. A third option is to do both. Soooooo, Who's in? |
Comments: 59 Joined: 02/09/2007 |
01/24/2008 10:33:28 PM
Well, I'm glad to see others do check out some of the things I say. Koolkat- a little long winded but you brought up some good points. North Georgia Animal League offers a spay/neuter rebate to Walker County residents to go with the low cost at Wally's Friends. Gabsmom- To work at the shelter one must be able to be two things 1) passionate and caring for animals and their plight. 2) tough as nails to do the dirty work you are forced to do by the irresponsible "pet owners". Maggie- There you go, we need to set the current laws straight and have animal control be able to come right out and do their job with authority and force when needed. I hope the puppy found a home, as for the paperwork and questions, I'm sure it was a pain but they have a job to do Hotdog- You ought to go check out the Animal League, I am, It looks like they are working with the shelter and trying to be a positive community response to the overpopulation and animal needs. This sounds better than the folks trying to stir up so much trouble. Why are there so many that can find the time to complain but no time to help repair the damage and prevent other leaks in the ship? There are alot of people that thrive on stirring the pot to see how much crap will spill, let's work together as a community to clean it up. I believe we should have licensing for pets...for each pet you own. That would do three things...1) cut down on a few animals, 2) Make a lot of folks mad, and 3) generate funds. Well I said Koolkat was long winded so I'll stop now. See you folks at the Animal League meeting or the shelter, right? All of you are going to help fix things, right? |
Comments: 1 Joined: 01/24/2008 |
01/24/2008 09:53:40 AM
I like what koolcat has to say, after reading what she wrote I had to go see for myself. the shelter workers were takeing in the cutest litter of pug pups. They gave them all names! I had no idea that they took their job soo personal.All of the pups were given shts before they went to the kennel area.The pups were so sweet I took 2 home ( there goes my 5 dog limit) All of my animals are fixed and they stay mostly indoors, I dont think that a 5 dog limit is fair to the responsible pet owners, why not just crack down on the hoarders and law breakers |
Comments: 3 Joined: 01/22/2008 |
01/23/2008 09:18:41 PM
I appreciate you settin me straight about the puppies, Maggie. Did you know that Walker County Animal Shelter gives puppies first shots and worms them ? Did you know that the Walker County Animal Shelter takes puppies to the Atlanta Humane Society ? Puppies go like hotcakes in Atlanta !!! Did you know that Atlanta Humane Society has over 150 volunteers and every dog gets walked at least twice a day ? It would be so very cool to have the animals at our local shelter get that sort of attention from the community. Wouldn't it also be nice to say that our local animal shelter is a good place to takes those unwanted cause they do their best to place the adoptable animals ? Euthanizing would then only happen when animals are seriously injured, sick or aggressive. AAAaaaaHHHhhhh. The dreams we dream |
Comments: 1554 Joined: 01/08/2006 |
01/23/2008 09:41:15 AM
Koolkat, was mostly joking about sitting at Walmart with a box of puppies LOL!!!! We are going to try and place them ourselves. Yes, as soon as the puppies are weaned, we will take her to be fixed. I agree with much of what you say. We do all need to step up and work for a solution, instead of pointing fingers. However, I have had some experiences with animal control and if they are always the way they were with me, I can see why many people are dissastified with them. In our previous neighborhood, I called them about an agreesive dog, a stray, that tried to attack me. I was told if I could catch it, they would come and pick it up. Now, why on earth would I try to catch a dog, that tried to attack me? It is their job, they have the equipment and supposedly the training to deal with aggressive animals. I also, stopped one day, after picking my grandson up from school and recused a puppy from being run over. The poor little thing was in the middle of Catlett Road and was almost hit by a school bus and another car in front of me. I stopped, even though I was not feeling well that day, and picked the puppy up and took it to the animal shelter. All I wanted was to get home and lay down on the couch and rest, but I had to stand there and answer questions and fill out paperwork. It wasn't my dog, I told them I found it on the road and didn't want it to be killed, yet they treated me as if I was bringing them a dog that I just decided to get rid of. Maybe this is part of why many don't think very well of animal control.Yes, I wish pet owners would be more responsible. If they were I wouldn't have had my dog show up on my front porch and get pregnant before I could get her fixed. However, it is that persons loss, as she is a great dog, follows me everywhere. Didn't really want a litter of puppies, but they are cute and I will make sure they have good homes. |
Comments: 3 Joined: 01/22/2008 |
01/23/2008 07:51:30 AM
Hey Maggie, why not take those unwanted pups to the shelter ? Passing them out at Wal Mart means in six months those pups will be reproducing adding to the gross overpopulation plaguing this county. The mama dog will be coming in season about a month after weaning the pups. Are you ready to have her spayed ? Check out Wally's Friends in Red Bank 423 877 9966. Female dogs under 50# are $ 45.00. Familymom is right about leash laws up north. It's easy to enforce the laws as there is not an over population any more. Ever sit in on court ? I feel so incredibly sorry for animal control. The go out, try to do their job and protect the community, the animals and all their efforts are in vain. It's got to be very frustrating and very hopeless PLUS they take so much grief from the community. Bygracethrufaith ~ It's all in a name, eh ? However, to make the statement that the animal control draws lines of support is ridiculous. They cover 450 square miles of Walker County. So like if they get a call that there are cows in the road over in the Villanow area, it's gonna take them a good 30 to 45 minutes just to get to the call in Flinstone........not to mention the time it takes to round up the cows, find the owner and manage traffic. Middleagemom ~ hats off to you for checking out local resources. Ever been to an NGAL meeting ? Good place to start making positive changes happen for the animals and the community. Johnboy ~ I've always heard the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Keep calling animal control. It's frustrating that as a taxpayer with a fenced yard, I have to deal with more dogs and cats than I choose to care for. I don't like it. It's not fair. It's not safe. I like the idea of the paintball gun. Excellent. When the animal goes home, the owners have proof positive their innocent pet has been violating the containment ordinance of Walker County !!! Hotdog offers another good idea ~ asking the community to step up rather than demand animal control take on yet another role of managing s/n. Good luck. In the years I have lived in this community, I see lots of finger pointers, lots of gossipers, tons of complainers, but very few doers. It's a sad truth. Please has a great idea about recycling money to maybe set up a future s/n option. That would be a move in the right direction. It would be better than setting a limit on the number of animals one can have. I agree that those who have gross numbers use the excuse that they can't afford to have them "fixed". Then why have the animals at all ????? Shadow ~ if we limit the number of aggressive people, I will be the first on the rail outa here. The animal issue is a hot for me. My whole life is involved, dedicated and about animals. I do not call myself an ANIMAL LOVER. When I hear that term, I run. It's been my experience that hose folks are immature, emotionally insecure, unrealistic, narrow minded and very selfish. We humans are enchanted with the animals and forget that's what they are. Created by God and wired to instinctively live a way far different from this human society. We've caused this unbalance, we've allowed this to happen and we continue to let it happen. It's a shame. Euthanizing is a pathetic choice but there are fates worse than death. Ever see dogs fight, kill each other, get hit by a car, suffer poisoning, gunshot/arrow wounds, starve, die from anemia due to parasites ? It's not pretty, totally unnecessary and completely uncivilized in this day and age. It'd be cool if this community embraced the new shelter the commissioner fought to build. It'd be cool if this community cared enough about animals to change this county's attitude about the shelter. United this community could turn that place into a pet place facility. Anyone here willing to work on that ? |
Comments: 2 Joined: 01/22/2008 |
01/23/2008 01:00:49 AM
Having a 5 dog/animal limit will not stop the inconsiderate, irresponsible owners. Their dogs will still run loose and bark. Up north animals are required by law to be tagged and licensed. For those whose pets are s/n, the license fee is very reasonable. For those with intact animals, the fee was rather high. For those with numerous animals and breeding and selling, a kennel license was required. Having the animals tagged may help generate some funding for the county to consider a s/n clinic. Has any one considered setting up a committee of concerned citizens or joining a group like North Georgia Animal League ? It may be that there are some with grant writing skills. That would be a great first step to setting up a s/n clinic. I don not have such skills, but would be willing to help. |
Comments: 287 Joined: 11/29/2007 |
01/21/2008 09:00:31 AM
Did anyone read in the Sunday paper about Alabama sending stray dogs up north for adoption because up there people are on waiting lists to adopt. Alabama has too many strays because the laws are not enforced (just like North GA) but up north (I cannot remember which state..I think it was New Hampshire) they have strict leash laws they ENFORCE and they also have very affordable spay/neuter programs. Our law makers should model what they do up North concerning dogs and the law.I feel for you with your neighbors, however a 5 dog limit would not make it better, because they would not follow the law and everyone knows that laws concerning animals are not enforced. I wish I had some great advice, but I do not. I know that when we lived in a subdivision that had loose dogs running around I would shoot them with my husband's paintball gun. they would run out of my yard and not come back. Of course you cannot do this with dogs chained up in the owner's yard, but it works nicely when they roam into your own yard. |
Comments: 15 Joined: 02/15/2007 |
01/20/2008 10:38:19 PM
I agree that a five dog limit is a bad thing. I also feel that a lot of people that have multiple animals don't have the funds or the ability to take care of them. Education and spay/neuter are crucial. 'Please' suggested that the animal control office offer spay clinics; but that isn't a valid solution either. The vets would have to be willing to do the surgeries at a low cost (tab picked up by the taxpayers) which isn't going to happen. They consider these surgeries to be their bread and butter. I did check out the website www.ngalonline.org that 'Shadow' suggested. They already have a spay/neuter assistance program in place. I emailed them with questions and they were very helpful. They are in need of volunteers and funds to continue with their work. I also did not get the feeling that they were radicals; simply normal people doing good volunteer work. Take a look at their website. It gives food for thought. |
Comments: 1 Joined: 01/20/2008 |
01/20/2008 04:28:26 PM
Hello. I'm new to this cyber community and have been only a reader for quite some time. This issue in particular strikes a personal chord with me and I thought I'd "sound off" about it. And also ask for advice.My family and I have lived in this county for a little over two years. When we moved in we noticed a few dogs but thought little of it. We've lived around dogs before. We've owned dogs ourselves before. Once we had gotten settled in we realized that we had a lot of dogs around us. On one side we have two neighbors who own dogs. One neighbor owns five. The other owns two dogs. On the other side of us we have a neighbor who owns four dogs. And another that owns one very lonesome german shepherd. And only one of these neighbors attempts to try to be a responsible pet owner and good neighbor. All the rest have no respect at all it seems and only have dogs for what purpose no one can seem to guess because these animals are not enjoyed by their owners. They just live in their yards. Fed and watered and once in a blue moon they are pet on the head. One person in particular owns five dogs and these dogs consider everyone else's yard their territory. Therefore, anytime anyone goes out in their own yards, these poor bored dogs bark and bark. After the "threat" is gone out of their sight, three will continue to bark from ten to twenty minutes...sometimes up to a half hour. It doesn't matter if the owner is home or not. She can be outside with them while they're barking and she doesn't do a thing about it. They are never put up unless the temperatures are very extreme. However, as cold as it is today, they are all five outside in this weather barking at anything that moves. They're barking now as I type. I think it's the squirrel out near the road they're barking about. It's all I can see. These dogs in particular are a major nuisance because they are so territorial of the neighborhood that they can see from their yard. The other dogs in our neighborhood do bark, but it's usually something that is near them. They don't bark at people for being in their own yards. We called animal control about this particular nuisance. An animal control officer issued a warning. This warning was ignored. A second call was made to animal control. The officer informed me that he would have to cite the owner and we'd have to go to court over the matter. To warn me ahead of time, he also stated that the judge tends to throw these cases out of court. So...apparently, it's a waste of time to try and use the ordinances set forth to deal with such a problem. The judge will throw it out of court. So we don't call animal control about that problem anymore. No one can enjoy their front yards. You can hear them indoors over your television, over fans... and Lord help us when someone's animal gets loose and runs amok...the noise is unbearable...and there is nothing to be done about it. Unless we take money out of our own pockets and sue the owner and we don't have a guarantee there either. It doesn't matter how many animals a person owns, although there are ordinances in place to aid in responsible ownership of pets, there is no serious enforcement. I think a lot of careless pet owners in this county are aware of it. These things tend to just go on with no serious slap on the wrist so... no one learns how to be more responsible or is forced to be. And everyone else that lives here is forced to have to live with it or try to move. But what guarantees the next neighborhood won't hold the same problem? A little over a year ago, a person renting in our neighborhood owned fourteen dogs and thirteen cats. The animals would break loose and you can imagine the chaos of the situation. Animal control was called and a warning was issued. They got in touch with the owners and waited for them for almost two hours. The second occurrence was a doozy for us all to endure. Dogs charged at a little boy in the neighborhood. Cats had clawed up the paint on one neighbor's car. A neighbor called animal control again which got into an argument with him that these people no longer own that many dogs. He insisted they come out and see for themselves. In the end, the police were called, animal control showed up shortly after, and the owner was issued some sort of ticket by animal control. This upset the owner so bad he moved. What if he hadn't moved? I often wonder what we would have had to endure then. You can own as many pets as you want to in this county and as long as you keep the animals put up, you've got nothing to worry about really. Even if the irresponsibility brings down the property values of your neighbor's home. Even if it disturbs people around you to where they cannot enjoy just being at home or enjoy the smell of fresh air out in their own yards. There is nothing really to make you be more responsible in this county. We love dogs. We know they bark. We know they smell. But there is such a thing as excessive barking and excessive smell. Anyone have any ideas of something we could try that we haven't yet? We have heard the devices used to help silent an excessive barker will not work in instances when it's territorial...and that's what we have here. We've been video taping the nuisance as a neighbor advised me to do just in case we should ever need the documentation. But until I could afford a lawyer, I don't know how it really helps us. We love this area and would like to keep it our home town. We have some awesome neighbors around us. It's just a certain few that make life here hard to enjoy. We certainly do not fault the dogs. It's not their fault at all. We just can't seem to reason with this owner. She yelled out one time that it's "because her dogs bark." She doesn't seem to understand it's that they bark their poor little heads off and you can hear it outside and inside around the clock, rain or shine. |
Comments: 126 Joined: 03/29/2007 |
01/20/2008 01:40:18 PM
How about a limit on junk cars in some ones yard? Or how about a limit on the pounds of garbage per square footage in a person's yard.I can handle dogs as long as they are taken care of.I can't handle people who pile up junk all around their houses. |
Comments: 59 Joined: 02/09/2007 |
01/17/2008 09:59:22 PM
I found this on the County website, check out www.ngalonline.org. They seem to be trying to go about this a different way. Spay\Neuter and education looks like a better start than making people mad and trying to shove something down their throat. The approach being taken by the ones pointing fingers is to me harsh and violent...or shall we say an aggressive behavior. Maybe we should limit aggressive people to five per County. |
Comments: 129 Joined: 08/17/2007 |
01/17/2008 09:17:01 PM
Seems to me we need responsible pet owners, not more laws. Animal control could offer clinics for spay/neuter services. That would be helpful, but passing laws and making people pay fines and fees will just take the money that they could have used on taking care of the animals. |
Comments: 59 Joined: 02/09/2007 |
01/17/2008 06:44:53 PM
Simply put, NO. we do not need a new law to limit dogs. Why just dogs? Isn't that discriminating? What about the cats?? Lets just say that you can't have more than five animals. Okay, so when those produce offspring you must get rid of them. Let's see now...we could just kill them or set them out in another county, or turn them over to a animal rescue group...I guess it wouldn't matter what we did as long as they were not our problem. I wonder how long it would be before we had to travel to another state to get rid of number six, oops seven, eight and nine will need to go also. |
Comments: 287 Joined: 11/29/2007 |
01/16/2008 07:34:58 PM
The current laws need enforcing. The animal control division is lacking funds and manpower. More laws would be intrusive. I own 4 dogs (three are large breeds) and they are well taken care of, in fact they are spoiled. I do, however, live on 30 acres. The problem I see with more laws is that it opens the door for even MORE. I would hate to think the government could tell me I can have only 30 chickens, and 3 horses, and 30 cattle, etc. Money needs to be given to animal control so that they can do their job, and it would be nice if a local vet would offer very low cost spay/neuter (especially for those of us who take strays in for the surgery) |
Comments: 1353 Joined: 07/13/2007 |
01/16/2008 04:23:00 PM
I call when I see strays...problem is...by the time someone gets here, they are gone, unless I want to try and catch them myself. And if it's after 4 pm, forget it. They won't come.I actually went to a city council meeting in FO the other night...I had not heard about this story until that night, but they handed out an award to a couple of city workers who rescued a boy from a pit bull attack. The boy was doing nothing more than riding his bicycle down the road. The city workers had nothing to do with animal control, FO has NO animal control. We must depend on the county. And I don't think the county is too concerned with us all the way out here at the other end of the county. There are laws pertaining to certain breeds that are considered vicious in Catoosa....but who is telling these owners about that? And if they know, who is enforcing it? No one around here. I have large dogs. Mine are not considered a vicious breed, but if provoked, I'm not certain that they would not bite...they are, after all, ANIMALS. But I have more control over my dogs than a person with a vicious dog is even required to have. More of these lazy owners should be fined and if they cannot contain the animal, then that animal should be removed.. I can understand one accidentally getting out a time or two. But by the third time, it's time to either find something that works or find the dog a new home that can keep it restrained, not roaming or attacking. |
Comments: 1554 Joined: 01/08/2006 |
01/16/2008 03:55:29 PM
I know what you are talking about Hoosiermama, if all those male dogs had been kept up or fixed, then maybe I would have had time to get my dog fixed before we had puppies. Oh well, guess I will be at Walmart with a box of puppies in a few weeks!!!!! |
Comments: 14 Joined: 05/29/2007 |
01/16/2008 03:54:45 PM
I'm not even sure what laws we have in place now. That could be a huge part of the problem. How are other people supposed to follow laws they aren't sure of? I just do what I think is logical pertaining to my pets. All of them no longer have the ability to reproduce, they are all up to date on their shots and annual Vet visits, and my yard is fenced in because a.) it's annoying enough when someone else's dog is loose, I'm not going to add to the problem, and b.) I'd rather my pups NOT get hit by a car. In my subdivision there is actually a restriction for only two outside pets. I'm not even sure if everyone in my neighborhood knows that. I'd rather there be a county wide blanket rule rather than a subdivision to subdivision rule. Who wants to keep up with that? I've adopted and taken care of more than my fair share of animals over the years and quite frankly I'm tired of picking up the slack. The community just needs to step up and address this issue and actually DO SOMETHING about it. |
Comments: 402 Joined: 11/14/2007 |
01/16/2008 03:49:32 PM
I live in a rural subdivision in Catoosa county where a lot of my neighbors just let their dogs roam free. I will not hesitate to pick up the phone and call animal control. Sooner or later they will get tired of paying the fine when they go to retrieve Fido and start using a pen or leash. Prolly doesn't sound very neighborly of me, but just like grayhermia, I get tired of restraining my dog and then having everybody else's dog in my yard. |
Comments: 1353 Joined: 07/13/2007 |
01/16/2008 03:42:22 PM
hoosier and maggie...you guys are probably right.....more laws are not going to help. perhaps if the ones that we have now were enforced then we wouldn't be forced to try to come up with other ideas pertaining to animal control. |
Comments: 1554 Joined: 01/08/2006 |
01/16/2008 03:20:58 PM
I don't like puppy mills and I don't like to see people who don't take care of their dogs, but I also don't think the government has any business telling any of us how much of something we can own or have. This is not a communist country. Yes, I wish everyone would spay or nueter their dogs and cats and not dump them out when they don't want them. We were recently adoped by a stray dog and she came into heat before I was able to take her to the vet, so now we have seven puppies we are going to have to find homes for and I am going to have to spend about 150 dollars to have her fixed. Yes, I know I could have taken her to the pound, but I just didn't have the heart to do it. |
Comments: 402 Joined: 11/14/2007 |
01/16/2008 03:08:08 PM
gray and grace,Even though I wholeheartedly agree with the both of you, it REALLY bothers me to put laws on the books. It just feels like we have big brother legislating everything we do. For the few that really can afford to take care of 5 or more dogs and REALLY good care of them (instead just merely owning them,) I don't think the gov't should interfere and tell them that they can't. |
Comments: 1353 Joined: 07/13/2007 |
01/16/2008 02:59:40 PM
Wish they'd enforce it in Catoosa as well.Personally, unless you are a breeder and even then only in certain situations...I think a 3 dog limit is good. |
Comments: 14 Joined: 05/29/2007 |
01/16/2008 02:46:04 PM
Splendid idea. While your at it enforce a leash/fence law so my kids can play outside with out "stray" (and by that i mean the neighbor's dogs) dogs bothering them and coming on to my property. Also, my dogs (whom are fenced in) won't bark all night because there are strange dogs cruising the subdivision. Also, it is highly expensive to take care of one dog properly, I doubt that Walker county is eat up with people who could afford to correctly tend to five dogs, and those who CAN afford it probably don't want five. |
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