Jeff O’Bryant: With friends like these, Obama doesn’t need enemies
Tuesday June 17, 2008 12:04:41pm
During the Republican primaries some liberals had nice things to say about John McCain; enough evidence alone to demonstrate that he is not fit for the job. From his voting record, one would think conservatives already understood this fact. But in a spectacular failure of good judgment they nominated McCain anyway. Praise from those who stand against everything conservatives believe in somehow failed to set off a 10.0 on the Richter Scale of political mistakes.
Bad as he may be, though, McCain pales in comparison to Barack Obama. So let us hope Americans in general do not make the same error this coming November. Let us hope they recognize the alarm bells sounding off against Obama.
Granted, he is intelligent, handsome, and articulate - characteristics his current supporters obviously haven’t bothered to look beyond. But I do not refer to his obvious lack of experience, his “yes, we can” mentality (stark naivety or calculated manipulation of the masses; take your pick), his willingness to essentially grovel before enemy leaders, or even his extreme left-wing, socialist beliefs. I’m referring instead to the people who like him, who want him to be president, and who say so.
Such testimonials for Obama include:
Ahmed Yousef, the Hamas advisor who earlier this year, as reported by WorldNetDaily, said “We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the elections.” He even went on to liken Obama to John Kennedy, claiming he is “a great man with a great principle.” So Obama has the Hamas vote - Hamas, the terrorist organization that can claim, among its many distinctions, anti-Semitism, hate-mongering, and human rights abuses such as blowing up children.
Yousef realizes he has nothing to fear from Obama.
Fidel Castro recently praised Obama for his “great intelligence,” “debating skills” and “work ethic” and wrote that Obama is “the most progressive candidate to the U.S. presidency.” So Obama is the favorite choice of Castro, a Communist dictator that has been responsible for thousands of human rights abuses.
Castro realizes he has nothing to fear from Obama.
Hugo Chavez didn’t exactly endorse Obama when he recently claimed that Venezuela’s relations with Washington would worsen if McCain were elected. “Sometimes one says, ‘worse than Bush is impossible,’ but we don’t know,” Chavez said, according to Reuters. “McCain also seems to be a man of war.” Still, even lacking an outright statement of support, Chavez, the authoritarian communist who has trampled basic rights, severely weakened both Venezuela’s economy and democracy, and helped to destabilize global oil prices, would rather see Obama than McCain in the White House.
Chavez realizes he has nothing to fear from Obama.
Obviously, we do not want the whole world to fear us. But the fate of Saddam as an example of the good U.S. power can do in the world is not lost on those of a like kind, an example Obama clearly isn’t prepared and indeed has no inclination to make of others. He has offered to talk with no preconditions. Like Neville Chamberlain meeting with Hitler, Obama has no idea what he is doing.
Further, beyond support from tyrants and terrorists Obama also receives a thumbs up from:
Rappers like Jay-Z, Ludacris, and Q-tip (“artists” whose lurid, highly sexualized, and sexist lyrics attempt to diminish our humanity and act like a cancer on society).
MoveOn.org (the liberal advocacy group that compared Bush to Hitler, smeared Gen. David Petraeus, and works to forward many inane leftist ideas).
“Ministers” like Jeremiah Wright (who claimed that AIDS was developed by the U.S. government to eradicate African Americans, that the U.S. deserved what happened on 9/11, and whose sermons include calls for God to “damn America” and make lurid, overt sexual references to Bill Clinton treating African Americans just like he treated Monica Lewinsky).
Of course, McCain has also received praise from people he would rather not associate with. But although the rappers, MoveOn.org and Wright are telling indicators against Obama the real concern is the terrorists and dictators who want to see him become president. McCain hasn’t had that problem.
The question boils down to this: do we want someone in the White House that the bad guys of the world fear or do we want someone there that the Hamas’, Castro’s, and Chavez’s of the world openly support? A rhetorical question for those that haven’t yet bothered to peer beyond the handsome, the smooth, and wholly inadequate would-be president Barack Obama.
Jeff O’Bryant is an amateur historian and holds two degrees, a bachelor’s in education and a bachelor’s with honors in history. He can be contacted at jeffobryant@catt.com or through his blog at rightnewsandviews.com.
Bad as he may be, though, McCain pales in comparison to Barack Obama. So let us hope Americans in general do not make the same error this coming November. Let us hope they recognize the alarm bells sounding off against Obama.
Granted, he is intelligent, handsome, and articulate - characteristics his current supporters obviously haven’t bothered to look beyond. But I do not refer to his obvious lack of experience, his “yes, we can” mentality (stark naivety or calculated manipulation of the masses; take your pick), his willingness to essentially grovel before enemy leaders, or even his extreme left-wing, socialist beliefs. I’m referring instead to the people who like him, who want him to be president, and who say so.
Such testimonials for Obama include:
Ahmed Yousef, the Hamas advisor who earlier this year, as reported by WorldNetDaily, said “We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the elections.” He even went on to liken Obama to John Kennedy, claiming he is “a great man with a great principle.” So Obama has the Hamas vote - Hamas, the terrorist organization that can claim, among its many distinctions, anti-Semitism, hate-mongering, and human rights abuses such as blowing up children.
Yousef realizes he has nothing to fear from Obama.
Fidel Castro recently praised Obama for his “great intelligence,” “debating skills” and “work ethic” and wrote that Obama is “the most progressive candidate to the U.S. presidency.” So Obama is the favorite choice of Castro, a Communist dictator that has been responsible for thousands of human rights abuses.
Castro realizes he has nothing to fear from Obama.
Hugo Chavez didn’t exactly endorse Obama when he recently claimed that Venezuela’s relations with Washington would worsen if McCain were elected. “Sometimes one says, ‘worse than Bush is impossible,’ but we don’t know,” Chavez said, according to Reuters. “McCain also seems to be a man of war.” Still, even lacking an outright statement of support, Chavez, the authoritarian communist who has trampled basic rights, severely weakened both Venezuela’s economy and democracy, and helped to destabilize global oil prices, would rather see Obama than McCain in the White House.
Chavez realizes he has nothing to fear from Obama.
Obviously, we do not want the whole world to fear us. But the fate of Saddam as an example of the good U.S. power can do in the world is not lost on those of a like kind, an example Obama clearly isn’t prepared and indeed has no inclination to make of others. He has offered to talk with no preconditions. Like Neville Chamberlain meeting with Hitler, Obama has no idea what he is doing.
Further, beyond support from tyrants and terrorists Obama also receives a thumbs up from:
Rappers like Jay-Z, Ludacris, and Q-tip (“artists” whose lurid, highly sexualized, and sexist lyrics attempt to diminish our humanity and act like a cancer on society).
MoveOn.org (the liberal advocacy group that compared Bush to Hitler, smeared Gen. David Petraeus, and works to forward many inane leftist ideas).
“Ministers” like Jeremiah Wright (who claimed that AIDS was developed by the U.S. government to eradicate African Americans, that the U.S. deserved what happened on 9/11, and whose sermons include calls for God to “damn America” and make lurid, overt sexual references to Bill Clinton treating African Americans just like he treated Monica Lewinsky).
Of course, McCain has also received praise from people he would rather not associate with. But although the rappers, MoveOn.org and Wright are telling indicators against Obama the real concern is the terrorists and dictators who want to see him become president. McCain hasn’t had that problem.
The question boils down to this: do we want someone in the White House that the bad guys of the world fear or do we want someone there that the Hamas’, Castro’s, and Chavez’s of the world openly support? A rhetorical question for those that haven’t yet bothered to peer beyond the handsome, the smooth, and wholly inadequate would-be president Barack Obama.
Jeff O’Bryant is an amateur historian and holds two degrees, a bachelor’s in education and a bachelor’s with honors in history. He can be contacted at jeffobryant@catt.com or through his blog at rightnewsandviews.com.
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08/31/2008 09:47:29 PM
slynayDid you check out these outlandish examples yourself, or just cut and paste from an obvious "MISLEADING" email that people like you are circulating around. Some of these examples are hilarious. "Will appoint judges who interpret the law and not make it" How can you possibly know that. Too vague of a statement that can't be proven. "Saying Obama does not support gun ownership rights" Totally untrue!! Full of untruths but you people keep spreading them around. Don't worry --- the TRUTH will prevail ! |
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08/31/2008 01:48:28 PM
2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS ISSUE JOHN McCAIN BARAK OBAMA Favors new drilling offshore US Yes No Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it Yes No Served in the US Armed Forces Yes No Amount of time served in the US Senate 22 YEARS 173 DAYS Will institute a socialized national health care plan No Yes Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy No Yes Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately No Yes Supports gun ownership rights Yes No Supports homosexual marriage No Yes Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase No Yes Voted against making English the official language No Yes Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals No Yes CAPITAL GAINS TAX MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax. OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.) DIVIDEND TAX MCCAIN 15% (no change) OBAMA 39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.') INCOME TAX MCCAIN (no changes) Single making 30K - tax $4,500 Single making 50K - tax $12,500 Single making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 60K- tax $9,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250 OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Under Obama, your taxes could almost double! INHERITANCE TAX MCCAIN - 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax) OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes. NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!! You can verify the above at the following web sites: http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html |
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08/29/2008 08:57:09 PM
We need a specific blog just for the election. Comments are getting spread around. I don't want to miss anything! |
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08/29/2008 08:55:14 PM
Go get um Grace !!! I agree totally !! The move to the stadium was GRAND SLAM !!! What an exciting night. Wish I could have been there.AC |
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08/29/2008 01:11:34 PM
"-- So it's a coincidence that the acceptance speech was made on an anniversary of MLK's I Have A Dream speech and that the backdrop was reminiscent of the Lincoln Memorial?"Ringgoldone, Perhaps I missed something....(it's very likely that I did)....but was someone calling this a coincidence? The reason I ask is because I didn't know if you were referring to my previous comment about the media being to blame for much of this "celebrity status" stuff. I hope you realize that the DNC is a planned event, and not quite the same in comparison to following Biden around in a helecopter just to talk about the number of SUV's in his yard, and to get a shot of him leaving his home to meet with Obama. As if I care about who is riding in the car with him, where his wife is sitting, and what color suit he will be wearing. Honestly, they rarely follow a president around like this. And you don't really see them stalking the vice president at all. So I think it's strange to devote hours to doing it to some guy who's just been named a running mate. It's all a bit over the top. But that is world's different than planning a vey large event. I really believe the democrats feel that they have something to celebrate. I saw what truly seem to be extremely HAPPY and EXCITED people. People who are happy can celebrate how they wish - fireworks, confetti, whatever. Who cares?....and concerning moving to the stadium....I don't have a clue how you think that many people would have fit in the other building they were in. They obviously needed to move....they were still over capacity in the stadium. A definative plan? I'll tell you, I've heard MUCH more explaining from Obama on plans than I ever have from McCain. You were talking about these people being out of touch with the "common folks." Have you not been LISTENING to McCain? He doesn't have a CLUE. If Obama doesn't LIVE like us, at least he and his does know something about the "common folks." I also think it's quite ironic that the "muslim" card has been played against Obama SO many times, when it's folks like our current president who have helped Saudi Arabia become such a rich country. We cannot deny that we have an "oil man" in the White House. You'd think having someone with that experience would make our oil prices better than ever....not to the point that people cannot even afford a gallon of gas to get to the grocery store and pay outrageous prices for their necessities. McCain has the same demeanor as Bush, has already said WAY too many stupid statements that, if he were speaking honestly when he has said this stuff, *I* would qualify for president before he would. But, if all you can complain about is the "hoopla and fireworks" and the fact that MLK's famous speech was a part of the night...then I guess Obama must have done pretty well. |
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08/29/2008 11:10:24 AM
Ringgoldone,"Dem or Rep - I am not interested in rock stars, fireworks, and hoopla. I've heard all I need to hear about hope and change. Politicians have been promising the same things for decades. How about a definitive plan and how we are going to pay for it?" DITTO ! When I watched Bill and Blliary in that thing, "smooching up" to Obama, I just about tossed my groceries, because I remember the things they said about him up prior to June. I am offended about the big deal these people are making about Obama's race. Does a person's race have a single thing to do with qualifications for office ? Of course it does not, but it certainly has a very big influence on getting votes, and that sort of thing is simply sickening. It is just as sickening whichever color a person's skin. I think a big part of this "bounce" is simply due to the exicitment over having our first "Person of Color" running for office. Many people will make their vote, for or against, this man, based upon nothing more than the color of his skin. I think it is equally wrong either way. |
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08/29/2008 07:27:06 AM
Oprah on Obama: 'I cried my eyelashes off'Fri Aug 29, 1:58 AM EDT Oprah Winfrey is leaving Denver with the candidate she wanted, but reportedly without her eyelashes. The talk-show host said she was moved to tears by Barack Obama's acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention. And those must've been some serious tears. "I cried my eyelashes off," she said in the bowels of Invesco Field, moments after Obama accepted the nomination for president before an estimated 84,000 people. "I think it's the most powerful thing I have ever experienced," she added, calling Obama's words "transcendent." On the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I have a Dream Speech," Winfrey compared Obama's words to those of the civil-rights leader, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln. "He's not an African-American candidate," she said. "He's a candidate for Americans." Winfrey threw her support behind Obama early — even before the Democratic primaries got under way last year. She's stayed active since, hosting rallies and fundraisers that even Obama has acknowledged have given him a boost. -- So it's a coincidence that the acceptance speech was made on an anniversary of MLK's I Have A Dream speech and that the backdrop was reminiscent of the Lincoln Memorial? |
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08/29/2008 06:49:04 AM
They have been talking about bounces that come out of every convention, and that Obama could have gotten up tp 15 points.Dem or Rep - I am not interested in rock stars, fireworks, and hoopla. I've heard all I need to hear about hope and change. Politicians have been promising the same things for decades. How about a definitive plan and how we are going to pay for it? |
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08/28/2008 11:27:40 PM
Ringgoldone, I think the DNC planned the speech in the football stadium. I just finished watching Obama's speech. I thought he did great. When I look at the huge crowd, it looks like a snapshot of America. I know you don't care for Dems, but I'm sure you can appreciate the historical importance of the acceptance speech. I have plenty of Republican and Democratic friends and proclaim to be an independent myself. |
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08/28/2008 07:25:12 PM
The bounce has already started: 5 points after last night, and going even higher after tonight. McSame will not be able to catch up after this speech. I guess the division that he counted on did not materialize after Bill, Hillary, and Biden pulled everyone together. |
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08/28/2008 05:57:22 PM
Is the media to blame for scheduling the acceptance speech in a football stadium? What is wrong with the arena where the convention is being held?Looks like the DNC, Obama's people and the news media can share the blame for turning this into an "event". |
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08/28/2008 02:55:36 PM
If Americans are saving a barrel of oil by not using it, where are the tax dollars that came from the distillates sold in that barrel for energy use now going to come from?More important, loss of tax dollars and the energy savings for America? To the "Frequent Flyers" who abuse going to the hospital using Medicare: The most important hospital visit is the one you don't make. |
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08/27/2008 08:56:23 PM
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08/27/2008 06:54:32 PM
at the National Review Online (NRO) brings us up-to-date on the early stages of digging through alleged Obama-Ayers related documents released yesterday to NRO's Stanley Kurtz.Some highlights from NRO: 1) Obama and Ayers "doled out tens of thousands of dollars to charities, among them, Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ - Obama's church, and the Arab American Action Network: (co-founded by Rashid Khalidi, a Yasser Arafat apologist who has supported attacks against Israel and now directs Columbia University’s notorious Middle East Institute, founded by Edward Said). 2) Ayers secured a $49.2 million grant for the Annenberg Foundation ...matched two-to-one by public and private contributions — to promote “reform” in the Chicago school system. He quickly brought in Obama, then all of 33 and bereft of any executive experience, to chair the board. With Ayers directing the project’s operational arm and Obama overseeing its financial affairs until 1999, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge distributed more than $100 million to ideological allies with no discernible improvement in public education... 3) Michelle Obama: ...then a dean at the University of Illinois, invited Ayers to participate in a panel with her husband, then a state senator From the Chicago Chronicle 1997: Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system;... Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus... |
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08/27/2008 02:29:41 PM
August 27, 2008Conservative Democrats Peeling Away From ObamaModerate/Liberal Republicans also shifting more to McCainUSA Democrats Election 2008 Government and Politics Republicans Americas Northern America -- Barack Obama has been struggling to maintain his Democratic base thus far in August, and according to weekly averages of Gallup Poll Daily tracking, the problem seems to be with conservative Democrats |
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08/27/2008 10:54:22 AM
wes.......... do you think your comments on the speeches apply only to the Democrats? Sure those speeches were carefully crafted. These are important speeches these people are making. Do you not think the same preperations are going on with our friends across the aisle. The republicans are doing the same thing as we speak. What's your point? Something wrong with being prepared? |
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08/27/2008 10:50:55 AM
Makes sense to me. Why do you see it as contradicting? |
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08/27/2008 09:34:45 AM
The DNC last night, "the most important barrel of oil is the one we don't use" Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer. Why is this statement contradicting? |
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08/27/2008 09:13:43 AM
For those Hillary supporters who will not vote for Obama. You don't have to vote for McCain. Ralph Nader is on many state ballots. For the more conservative voter Bob Barr is also on many state Ballots. Bob Barr will be on Glenn Beck Thursday evening. |
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08/27/2008 09:12:24 AM
Take notice. All of those speeches were very very carefully crafted. Weeks of working on getting them exactly correct. Numerous different speech writers, pollsters, anylists etc etc all made sure YOU HEARD what you wanted to. Every word was selected and timed to maxamize the effect.They then practiced those speeches over and over untill they could deliver them prefectly. They are masters at what they do - and the sheep follow right along. |
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08/27/2008 08:36:43 AM
Stayed up to watch Senator Hillary Clinton's speech at the DNC last night.Asking her supporters to rally behind Barak Obama and Joe Biden. One of the delegates interviewed afterwards said she would not vote for McCain, but wasn't yet convinced that Barak Obama would be who she would vote for. The delegate seemed disapointed that Hillary had "thrown in the towel" and was backing her party's nomination for President. She said Obama has not yet "connected" with her as one of the Hillary Clinton supporters. They gave a camera shot of Former President Bill Clinton and he was almost in tears listening to his wife give her speech. |
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08/27/2008 12:00:24 AM
re: leading the country with a board of successful business leadersIt would be the same as it's been for the past 8 years |
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08/26/2008 06:46:46 PM
George W Bush served on the board of directors of Harken Energy in the mid 80's. |
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08/26/2008 12:57:47 PM
I don't think there is anyone in Washington who is in touch with the common folk. I agree that we shouldn't put any of them on a pedestal, but I think they have a higher opinion of themselves than they ought.And yes all of the news media can share the blame for creating the rock star mentality. I would love to see how a board of directors comprised of successful business leaders would lead this country. |
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08/26/2008 12:12:05 PM
wow, ringgoldone, wonder if anyone is surprised to hear that typical judgmental statement from you? lol. Leaving a high paying attorney job, and going into the business of helping local neighborhoods at a job that paid nothing doesn't seem to be all that "out of touch" ....but that's just my opinion. BTW, They are ALL just common folk, like you and me, including McCain. I'm not putting any of them on a pedestal to worship.....that's a stupid thing to do, regardless of what party you support. This whole "rock star" status thing is blown way out of proportion, and the media is to blame for it. I've never seen something so rediculas as to dedicate HOURS of TV time just to follow Biden around all day....like FoxNews did on Saturday. Who's establishing this so called "celebrity" game? Looks like the news channels are doing a pretty good job of it, and not necessarily the candidates themselves. Wonder if they'll follow McCain's running mate around like that? |
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08/26/2008 11:57:04 AM
I am so glad to know that folks like Barack and Michelle (with a $4 million home), Teddy Kennedy ($$$), Joe Biden (and his compound), the Clintons are just common folk like you and me. I wonder if they would like to come over for dinner Sunday?They are just as elitest and out of touch as they claim they Republicans are. |
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08/26/2008 10:58:47 AM
"It's a Bird,It's a Plane,It's BARACK AMERICA.....Obama's pick for VP is really amusing..."Perhaps this is the answer to why we only get copied and pasted articles, and never a personal opinion from Slynay. This may be all she has to offer on the subject. |
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08/26/2008 10:06:10 AM
You keep thinking that, slynay, right up to January 20, 2009 !!!!!! |
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08/26/2008 09:01:38 AM
It's a Bird,It's a Plane,It's BARACK AMERICA.....Obama's pick for VP is really amusing... |
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08/26/2008 12:05:10 AM
Great Opening Night for the Democratic Convention !!!! Will only get better !!! |
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08/25/2008 05:46:01 PM
I've never been polled. |
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08/25/2008 02:04:44 PM
I was polled last week. Asked 1. from 1 -5 how closely was I following the presidential race 2. If the election were held today which frontrunner would I vote for Obama or McCain 3. How likely was I to actually vote in November for the candidate I had just named |
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08/25/2008 07:14:44 AM
I participate in the Zogby polls on a regular basis. I agree that polls don't vote, however they can be a good gauge if done by legitimate pollsters such as Zogby. It is also a gauge of opinion at a "certain moment in time" and that CAN change depending on how things further develop (like a campaign for instance). |
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08/25/2008 06:38:00 AM
Has anyone here ever been contacted by a pollster? For me, not once. I think the polls only reflect what the pollsters want them to. At the end of the day, polls don't vote - people do. And unfortunately, not enough people vote. |
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08/25/2008 12:08:19 AM
Guess she didn't. She must not be as "high up" in the Clinton campaign as she thought she was. Kind of hard for her to speak for the whole country, as the poll showed. |
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08/24/2008 10:02:55 PM
I guess that poor lady interviewed as a leader for Hillary supporters on CNN who said Hillary as VP was an insult and unacceptable and that they would vote for McCain over Obama did not know about that poll. |
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08/24/2008 09:35:44 PM
geoff,Perhaps the answer to your last question would be that there are several narrow-minded, right-wing extremist, pseudo-Christians on here who only respond if it is religion-related. Obviously, Gatorfan's arrogant ignorance has offended several who have taken him to task on the issue of supporting those who are less fortunate than he. He obviously disagrees with the quote, "from those who have more, more is expected." For those who constantly profess their Christianity more than they exhibit it, might I suggest a few scriptures to check up on? Proverbs 10:15, Job 27:19, Matthew 19:23 and 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 18:25 and 20:25. I could look up a many more, but it's my bedtime and I just wanted to add a little to this circus. |
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08/24/2008 07:45:28 PM
Why does religion need to be brought into this political discussion. Gator's right about Obama being a Socialist. His wife is a bigger Socialist than Obama. |
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08/24/2008 07:26:10 PM
Do you know the meaning of Socialism and Communism yourself, Gator? I don't see anyone calling for an overthrow of the present government and everyone's house, land and posessions seized by a new one. Also, you stated it was your "God given right as an American" I guess you believe enough to think that God gives you the good things in life but in return you owe Him nothing, not even an acknowledgement of His existance. |
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08/24/2008 06:46:37 PM
Thank you for clarifying that you are a "non-believer". That puts your comments about those that are less fortunate into perspective.We all think that those who are able to work, should work. And there will ALWAYS be those who find ways to abuse the system. But you "don't throw the baby out with the bath water" so to speak. We must continue to correct the problems that allow for the abuse. However, according to you gator, NO ONE deserves any help from their fellow man. In my opinion, you are walking on some thin ice with some of your posted remarks. If and when you fall through (the ice) I wonder if you will take the hand of that "lower class" person that is there to help you out !! Everything we have (own) belongs to God. He just allows us to take care of it for him, for a while. He can take it back at ANY time, without warning. For what it's worth................ |
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08/24/2008 05:52:16 PM
Do any of you understand what Socialism and Communism is? If so, then please explain to me how Obama is NOT a socialist communist. |
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08/24/2008 05:41:48 PM
You think I don't know that my tax dollars are going to welfare?! Of course I do, That is my whole point. I do not "agree" with it. I guess when I say support you just don't understand. And I see you still do not comprehend the meaning of an academic scholarship. If I can get something for free then of course I will take it but I do not go looking for it. And even if my kids get an academic scholarship the I will still donate money to the college. No I am not a "believer". |
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08/24/2008 05:27:03 PM
The Official John McCain Flip-Flop List:(74 times McCain has reversed his position on important issues) www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops |
Comments: 363 Joined: 06/26/2008 |
08/24/2008 05:08:00 PM
It will be painfully obvious to McSame, during the Democratic convention next week, that Obama and Clinton supporters are united. All of the "crossover voters" that he was counting on will overwhelmingly endorse Obama, paving the way for a landslide victory in November. Also next week, McSame will have to deal with his own demons for picking Romney as his VP, someone who he personally despised during the primaries.OBAMA-BIDEN '08 |
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08/24/2008 04:43:50 PM
To say that Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama is just a TAD bit misleading, ringgoldone. Of course, I have become accustomed to expecting no more from you.Per a recent NBC News/WallStreet Journal poll: Choice for President Among Clinton Voters: 52% Obama 21% McCain 27% Unsure Sorry but it is well documented that Obama has Clintons clear support. You just wish it were not true, I guess !! |
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08/24/2008 04:20:54 PM
If Hillary supported Obama, she wouldn't have stated that she is running for President in 2012. She either thinks he won't win or will make such a mess of things that he won't be able to win re-election.Then again, her supporters (who are on record saying they will not vote for Obama, but will vote for McCain) said it would be an insult for her to be VP. They believe she was ripped off by the DNC rules. Wouldn't it be funny if Hillary found a loophole in the rules and was voted in as the Democratic nominee for president? |
Comments: 225 Joined: 10/12/2006 |
08/24/2008 03:18:52 PM
McCain is already conceding (in my opinion) that he is in trouble. He must think that he can't win simply talking about his own campaign or what can (or can't) do. He has to put out his little cutesy commercial trying to exploit any tension between the Obama and Clinton supporters. The ad is really misleading due to the fact that Clinton has more than once stated that her support for Obama is CLEAR. McCain, however, chose to omit those particular comments from the ad.Of course, I would not expect anything less from the Republicans! It really is not surprising. McCain........ worry about your own race. That should keep you plenty busy!! |
Comments: 225 Joined: 10/12/2006 |
08/24/2008 02:40:39 PM
Well said, toosavoter !!!Gator....... if someone else is paying for your kids education (scholarship) then......... that means "someone else is paying for your kids education". Not you. If you don't want to call it a handout, call it a gift. But someone else is paying for it. By the way gator... ARE you a "believer"? You don't have to answer of course, but it would sure put your previous comments into "perspective". Enlighten us, if you will. |
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08/24/2008 12:34:56 PM
gator-I'm sorry to disappoint you, but you ARE supporting welfare in the form of your federal income tax (unless you are evading taxes?). I'm not sure what you consider lower class, but if it is $25,000 or less, then make sure you look down your nose at the folks handing out your change at the McDonald's drive-thru window next time. And try not to let them hear your crack-smoking baby remarks, so they don't spit (or worse!) on your Big Mac when they hand it to you with a smile. Everyone likes to think that opportunities are equal for all in this country, but sometimes it takes more than just plain old hard work. Sometimes, it takes luck: staying healthy when you cannot afford insurance, not getting laid off when your job is outsourced to Mexico or your company's sales are down, hoping that you read the fine print on the mortgage papers you signed or the appraiser did not overprice your house, praying that the price of gas stays down so you can afford to get to work next month. These are REAL problems that people face every day and have nothing to do with how hard they work, or if they are black or white. These are the decent hard-working people that welfare needs to take care of. I hope you can understand their point of view, and that it KILLS them to take a handout from the government, but sometimes they have no choice if they have to feed their kids and pay their rent when bad luck strikes. And as soon as they are back on their feet again, they would gladly regain their dignity and get off welfare and food stamps. Remember that it was the Clinton administration in 1996 that reformed welfare by limiting the amount of time for receipt of benefits, pushing people to work, and ending beneftis for undocumented immigrants. |
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My dog learned to fetch a tennis ball once, and now he does it over and over and over again and never gets tired of it. Sometimes, it is annoying, but I still admire his enthusiasm for the game. On the other hand, I think it would be a waste of time for me to explain economics or have any other intellectual conversation with him.