Stork brings troubling news to Walker County leaders; task force formed to combat growing rate of teen pregnancies
Tuesday August 5, 2008 6:01:08pm
During the past school year 47 teen pregnancies occurred among Walker County school system students, with the youngest mother being age 13.
That’s according to Tricia Jackson, a social worker with the system..
Jackson spoke Tuesday to a group gathered at the Walker County Civic Center in Rock Spring to discuss a topic that is often taboo --- teen pregnancy.
“The Walker County teen pregnancy rate had decreased for a number of years, until about 2005. It started to go back up,” Jackson said.
“Two (of the 47 pregnancies) were to mothers that were age 13, seven were to mothers that were 14, six were to mothers that were 15, and eight were to mothers that were 16,” she said. That means 23 of the 47 teens who had babies were under age 17.
“Ten pregnancies occurred to mothers who were 17, four to mothers who were 18, and one to a mother who was 19,” she said.
Jackson said the number of teen pregnancies in the system during the past school year may have been even greater, but these were the ones her office was able to track.
“Two (mothers) are still in middle school, nine are still in high school, eight graduated high school, two are home-schooled, eight dropped out of school, with three being in GED programs.”
Jackson said statistics show that teen births increase the likelihood of the mother dropping out school and raising the child in poverty.
Three of the cited births were the second children born to a teen mother, she said.
“What is really scary is that one of the school counselors came to me yesterday and said we already have a teen pregnancy this year.”
Cost is high; the trend is national
Jackson said that the cost to the county was about $2.8 million “with public health, child welfare services, decreased earnings in spending and the dropout rate.”
School officials have pointed to teen pregnancies as contributing to the county’s dropout rate among high school students.
Andrea Sharpe, training director of Georgia Campaign for Adolescent Pregnancy Prevention, talked about the efforts of Walker County leaders in forming a teen pregnancy task force.
Sharpe said the increase of teen pregnancy in Walker follows a trend nationwide of teen births steadily climbing during the past several years.
“Nationally, last year was the largest single-year increase in teen birth rates since 1991, with 441,000 births to women under the age of 20,” Sharpe said.
Jackson said that along with the increase in teen pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) are on the rise among girls ages of 14-19.
“It is estimated that as many as 25 percent of all teenage girls from 14 to 19 have an STD,” Jackson said. “If you have an average classroom of 28 kids, with 12 being girls, three in that classroom could have an STD. That is huge.”
Abstinence is fine, but education is vital
Members of the teen pregnancy task force met with their partners from Northwest Georgia Public Health and Family Connection at the Civic Center to raise awareness of the problem and to brainstorm ideas to combat it.
Susan Wells, spokesman for the task force, said, “We want you to hear the story of teen pregnancy in Walker County. It doesn’t just impact those teens or just the school system, although it does affect their dropout rate. It doesn’t just impact the county agencies working with these teens, but it affects the entire community. All of us here in Walker County who want our children to grow up healthy, well-educated, and successful are concerned about this sudden rise in teen pregnancies. We want you to have a good understanding of what’s going on in our community and we also want you to be aware of what works in teen pregnancy prevention.”
Sharpe said that in her agency’s research teaching abstinence is not enough.
“There is nothing wrong with wanting abstinence for our kids,” Sharpe said. “But we must also incorporate this with other information that teaches a greater audience the facts about teen pregnancy.”
Sharpe encouraged church leaders at the meeting to embrace their partners working down the street who might be teaching the value of contraceptives to teens.
“This must be a partnering of the community to stop this rising problem,” Sharpe said.
The task force has been meeting in Walker County since January to study the problem and to begin providing solutions.
According to Wells, Tuesday’s meeting was the first of many planned interventions the task force will provide the county to help stop the growth in teen pregnancy rates.
Wells thanked County Commissioner Bebe Heiskell for sponsoring this initial meeting, saying of Heiskell, “We feel so fortunate in Walker County to have a commissioner that genuinely cares about the families and children in our community.”
That’s according to Tricia Jackson, a social worker with the system..
Jackson spoke Tuesday to a group gathered at the Walker County Civic Center in Rock Spring to discuss a topic that is often taboo --- teen pregnancy.
“The Walker County teen pregnancy rate had decreased for a number of years, until about 2005. It started to go back up,” Jackson said.
“Two (of the 47 pregnancies) were to mothers that were age 13, seven were to mothers that were 14, six were to mothers that were 15, and eight were to mothers that were 16,” she said. That means 23 of the 47 teens who had babies were under age 17.
“Ten pregnancies occurred to mothers who were 17, four to mothers who were 18, and one to a mother who was 19,” she said.
Jackson said the number of teen pregnancies in the system during the past school year may have been even greater, but these were the ones her office was able to track.
“Two (mothers) are still in middle school, nine are still in high school, eight graduated high school, two are home-schooled, eight dropped out of school, with three being in GED programs.”
Jackson said statistics show that teen births increase the likelihood of the mother dropping out school and raising the child in poverty.
Three of the cited births were the second children born to a teen mother, she said.
“What is really scary is that one of the school counselors came to me yesterday and said we already have a teen pregnancy this year.”
Cost is high; the trend is national
Jackson said that the cost to the county was about $2.8 million “with public health, child welfare services, decreased earnings in spending and the dropout rate.”
School officials have pointed to teen pregnancies as contributing to the county’s dropout rate among high school students.
Andrea Sharpe, training director of Georgia Campaign for Adolescent Pregnancy Prevention, talked about the efforts of Walker County leaders in forming a teen pregnancy task force.
Sharpe said the increase of teen pregnancy in Walker follows a trend nationwide of teen births steadily climbing during the past several years.
“Nationally, last year was the largest single-year increase in teen birth rates since 1991, with 441,000 births to women under the age of 20,” Sharpe said.
Jackson said that along with the increase in teen pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) are on the rise among girls ages of 14-19.
“It is estimated that as many as 25 percent of all teenage girls from 14 to 19 have an STD,” Jackson said. “If you have an average classroom of 28 kids, with 12 being girls, three in that classroom could have an STD. That is huge.”
Abstinence is fine, but education is vital
Members of the teen pregnancy task force met with their partners from Northwest Georgia Public Health and Family Connection at the Civic Center to raise awareness of the problem and to brainstorm ideas to combat it.
Susan Wells, spokesman for the task force, said, “We want you to hear the story of teen pregnancy in Walker County. It doesn’t just impact those teens or just the school system, although it does affect their dropout rate. It doesn’t just impact the county agencies working with these teens, but it affects the entire community. All of us here in Walker County who want our children to grow up healthy, well-educated, and successful are concerned about this sudden rise in teen pregnancies. We want you to have a good understanding of what’s going on in our community and we also want you to be aware of what works in teen pregnancy prevention.”
Sharpe said that in her agency’s research teaching abstinence is not enough.
“There is nothing wrong with wanting abstinence for our kids,” Sharpe said. “But we must also incorporate this with other information that teaches a greater audience the facts about teen pregnancy.”
Sharpe encouraged church leaders at the meeting to embrace their partners working down the street who might be teaching the value of contraceptives to teens.
“This must be a partnering of the community to stop this rising problem,” Sharpe said.
The task force has been meeting in Walker County since January to study the problem and to begin providing solutions.
According to Wells, Tuesday’s meeting was the first of many planned interventions the task force will provide the county to help stop the growth in teen pregnancy rates.
Wells thanked County Commissioner Bebe Heiskell for sponsoring this initial meeting, saying of Heiskell, “We feel so fortunate in Walker County to have a commissioner that genuinely cares about the families and children in our community.”
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08/13/2008 02:44:49 PM
I wonder if we would not be better off with all-girls and all-boys schools. They are there to learn I believe and not to socialize. |
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08/13/2008 08:17:29 AM
Irish, went through the same thing with my boys. One girl even called when our youngest was just nine and wanted to speak to our son and my husband told her, he was outside playing and she said to tell him his girlfriend called. My husband quickly told her, she might be a girl and she might be his friend, but she wasn't his girlfriend!!! Sometimes I think convents and monastary's aren't such a bad idea!!!!LOL |
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08/13/2008 07:25:59 AM
I have a 12 year old boy and girls have been after him since he was 10. I tell him he doesn't need to grow up so fast but it's hard when girls are calling him and his friends are talking about dating and going steady. |
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08/12/2008 05:30:58 PM
Grace, Well at least you are working at it, but trust is another thing. I remember when my kids were young, a lot of their friends parents would take them to the mall and leave them there for hours. That might have been safe, when I was a kid, but not in this day and time. We fought continuously about this, but I stuck to my guns. They were not allowed to go and roam the malls or anywhere unattended and only when they were 14 would I let them walk around the mall without me. I didn't leave the mall and they had prearranged times when they would have to meet me and check in. You also wouldn't believe the parents that let their high school kids go to Florida for Spring Break, sometimes with an older teenager. My kids, well my oldest was the worst, he tried from his freshman year on to get us to let him go to Florida with friends for Spring Break, but we never gave in. We did let him go with friends after graduation, when he was 18. Wasn't really thrilled about that, but you do have to let go sometime.Diogenes, it isn't just the boys going afer girls, a lot of girls are just as aggressive in going after the boys. |
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08/12/2008 04:19:14 PM
lol. maggie.the communication thing still has alot of work needed. And trust me, I'm working on it! I still don't trust her as far as I can throw her. She's still very impressionable, and it's silly of me to think I could predict what she will do when I'm not around. |
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08/12/2008 04:13:10 PM
Grace, sad but true. I knew some mothers when my daughter was a freshman and they thought it was so cool for seniors to date their daughters, especially when they got invited to the prom. Sounds like you have the lines of communication open with your daughter. I am glad she listened to you and didn't fall for this boy and his deceptive ways. I even remember when my niece was a freshman and this senior boy was after her and I told him in no uncertain terms he better back off, she was too young for him. I guess I made a believer out of him, as he left her alone. |
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08/12/2008 03:51:05 PM
wow. happy about a senior wanting to date the freshman daughter? Well, I guess that tells us that this pregnancy problem DOES have alot to do with how the parents are looking at things.I just got angry at a little 16 yr old boy the other day that was trying to talk my 13 yr old into "dating" him and not telling her parents how old he is when she told him she couldn't have older "boyfriends." I can't see myself being "happy" about a senior lusting over my daughter. |
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08/12/2008 02:44:28 PM
from what i witnessed first hand in school.. the senior guys make a game out of 'how many freshman' they can 'get' by the end of the year.and some teachers DO know what's going on. it's not like the guys were silent about it. |
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08/12/2008 02:32:42 PM
Grace, it is not just the younger girls acting older that entices the older boys, it is also new conquests so to speak. Many of the girls their age have already been around the block multiple times, so the guys are looking for younger conquests. From my experience working at the high school, the senior boys were after the freshmen girls as soon as school started. The really sad thing was the mothers who were so excited that a senior wanted to date their freshman daughter. |
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08/12/2008 02:13:11 PM
Maggie,as I was typing the other posts, the possibility also crossed my mind that many of these women over 18 who are getting assistance may already have had children as a teen as well. It would make sense to bring that scenario into the equation when wondering just exactly who's pregnancies the state is paying for. I'm sure some of these over 18 women have already had children at a younger age, and may perhaps already be struggling because of that. It could definately be a factor. At any rate, I still see that our babies are growing up way to fast, for a number of reasons. I also wonder, out of curiousity, mostly.... for these younger teens (13 - 15) if most of the fathers are the same age or older? I've noticed that it seems that more of the older teen boys these days aren't doing what you described happened to you when you were a young girl. These days, our little girls want to grow up so fast and be accepted by the "older" kids, I believe that some will do just about anything to be accepted. I see 15 yr old boys wanting to "date" (as they call it) 12 year olds, knowing how much younger they are. When I was in middle school, the high school boys wouldn't have anything to do with the middle school kids. That's no so anymore. I think they've figured out how much our pre-teen and new teen girls want to be thought of as "older" and they are taking advantage of that. |
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08/12/2008 01:48:08 PM
i agree.... i think after a certain amount of time.. you should start copaying for your care.. and then the cost would get higher and higher.. till MAYBE there could b something to wear they pay for their insurance all the time? i dont know how that would work. but i agree, SOMETHING is better then nothing at all. |
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08/12/2008 01:39:17 PM
Sarah and Grace, I would say you are correct in that most of the women who are on state assistance are over the age of 18 and yes, many of them find out it pays to have children. However, some of these over 18 moms may have become first time moms under the age of 18. If the parents have ins. then some, but not all policies will cover the pregnancy, but they don't cover the baby, unless the parents/grandparents become legal guardians of the baby. Grace, I agree, it is good that we have these programs for those who really need it, but for it to become a way of life, the same with welfare, foodstamps, etc. is just plain wrong. |
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08/12/2008 01:23:50 PM
Great points, Sarah. I'm so glad to know that things turned out well for you and your son. There are so many that cannot say the same. I'd like to address the issue you bring up about the cost of teen pregnancy to the state. They seem to be overlooking your point about the women who are older than 18 that have their entire pregnancy paid for. I understand that many need help, and it's wonderful that there are resources available. However, I WOULD like to see there be more of an incintive to come OFF of the assistance afterward. I'm sure that for many who see that when they have one child, they get all healthcare paid for, they know if they have another, it will be paid for. And then there's the fact that so many of these women STAY on these programs. Again, I'm glad they are there, but there should be (and if things haven't changed over the past few years, there still isn't) a system to wean these people off of the assistance and promote independance from it. It can become a vicious cycle, depending on the person....while some will use it as needed, then try to break away. I'd say MOST remain on it. As for teens, I would think that most of these young women are already on their parent's health insurance policy (if they have one) and therefore would not qualify for state assistance. So, after all of my rambling, Sarah, I just want to say: Yes. You are most likely absolutely right about the fact that the majority of the "cost" to the state for pregnancies is most likely because of women OVER the age of 18. I would like to see the statistics on that. I think I'll try to look them up. I know that is all mostly off topic, but I think that you bring out an interesting point on the statistics of pregnancies that are costing the state money. I think it is HIGHLY likely that if we are just talking "cost" here, we need to look and see where most of it is coming from. It seems to me that in most of the teen pregnancy cases, the parents of the teens would be the ones that the "cost" is imputed to. That being said, this is an issue that should be dealt with, even if it never costs the state a penny. |
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08/12/2008 12:56:46 PM
just reading over other posts and realizing most of what i said.. has already been said. sorry.i do agree that some parents work.. and cant be there as much. but i'm sure those same parents would not have the time for another mouth to feed once that baby came along. so MAKE TIME for your teens. i do agree that some girls are just plain boy crazy and do entice the boys. i go back to the parents tho.. talk to your boys at home. i know i will. and i do blame a lot on the media.. have you seen what they're promoting for 13 and 14 yr olds to wear to SCHOOL? and i blame celebrity 'teen stars' for their actions and relaying that it's 'okay' to do certain things. repeating myself.. i know. |
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08/12/2008 12:49:56 PM
I think a decline in teen pregnancy rates start at home.MOST.. [and i say most, not ALL.. some of you are coupling the entire population of 18 or under mothers into a group] would have likely not gotten pregnant had their parent's told them to stay at home or BE at home at certain time 'that fateful weekend'. I think there needs to be a LOT more education to Parents about what is actually going on in schools and with their teen daughters. I think a mother should teach her child about abstinance.. but be very willing to discuss contraceptives. in other words... a school assembly or one week class about stds and pregnancy is not going to stop a bunch of teen girls who go out at night.. end up at someone's house and want to go to bed with a guy. i would have to agree with whoever else said that i think any 13 yr old who ended up pregnant MAY have been abused. Some, are just fooling around witht their 13 yr olds boyfriends. Sad to say, but sex-ed should start in 5th grade these days. right before they go into middle school. SO sad to think that our babies need to hear about sex at an early age. but i'd rather it come from me or an educator instead of Joe and Billy Bob next door who want to get into bed w/ her. I got pregnant my senior year of highschool. Me and my son are just fine and have a great life. I do feel bad for those who did not get to finish school. I Was fortunate to have had my son 2 months after I had graduated already. I know i would have made it anyway with the great family i've got, but i do feel for those who really dont have a family support system at home. And another thing.. why bother to care how much teen mother's cost the county when there are just as big a problem w/ women who get pregnant just to have insurance and food stamps [who are WAY over 18 yrd old] and what not. there are a whole lot of people in the county who abuse the system, but i understand this is just the topic posted. thats'a whole other topic in it'self. sorry to just rant on, but you can understand, i'd have a lot to say about it. |
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08/12/2008 07:34:06 AM
I am in total agreement about the Myspace thing. My 12 year old is not allowed on that site or Facebook. They are much too young and inexperienced to be getting hit on at his age. He also has no cell phone though most of his friends do. I told him if he needs to make a call, he can use our home phone. |
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08/11/2008 07:27:11 PM
Grace, you added some very good points, you can not be too careful and you should always trust your gut instincts. When those warning bells are going off, listen to them, they can save you a lot of heartache. You know, when I was ages 12 to 14, I was mature for my age and looked older then what I was. I remember being in Florida when I was 14 and had walked down to the beach and these boys stopped to talk to me. They were in college and after talking for a few minutes they must have realized I was younger then they thought, because one of them asked me how old I was. Well, I didn't lie, as many girls would be prone to these days and when I told them I was 14 (jail bait in those days) they quickly told me good-bye and headed on down the beach!!!! That probably woudn't happen today. You just can't be too careful in today's world. |
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08/11/2008 04:13:57 PM
preach on, maggie! LOL.As some additional support to your post: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO check out the parents of your children's friends. Don't just assume that they have the same values as you. This was a lesson that I learned through experience. You'd be surprised what some of these kids are doing right under the noses of those parents. Just because that parent may verbally agree that particular behaviors are inappropriate...don't take for granted that parent is involved or aware enough to prevent something from happening when your child is with them. I had an experience in which my daughter was invited to go on a "day trip" a couple hours away with her friend and the friend's parents. My first instinct was to say no, but I figured that I have to slowly loosen the hold a little at a time. After talking extensively with the parents, I felt like we all agreed on some very particular specific situations. Watched at all times. Not to be let out of their sight. No chasing boys around the place (I know how these young girls are), etc. etc. Long story short....my daughter came home with boys much older than her calling - one 17 year old (she naturally looks much older than she was - 12 at the time) I also found out that clothing was changed, much more revealing clothing was put on --- clothes that belonged to the other girl. And then I found out that the parents just let them do whatever they wanted with no supervision. Fortunately nothing tragic happened, other than my just feeling stupid for ever trusting these people with my child. Needless to say, this is a lesson learned --- don't trust people with your children just because they can technically call themselves "parents." Also, it's a good idea to trust your first instinct - most of the time, I've found that when something does not feel right, later on, I find myself wishing I'd trusted my gut. |
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08/11/2008 03:39:17 PM
Grace, well said. Parents need to be parents and teach their kids right from wrong, but for those that refuse to fill their rolls, unfortunately we need the schools to fill the gap. For those that go to Church, we need our youth programs to back us up. I too thought JBT was so wrong on saying most 13 year olds were abuse victims.This is to those parents who aren't involved in their kids lives, GET INVOLVED, pry the cell phone out of their hands, block sites on the computer and limit their time on it, pay attention to what they watch on TV, and for crying out loud don't take them to R rated movies and even be careful what PG13 movies you let them watch. Talk to you kids. Know their friends, check and see if they are involved in chat rooms and quite frankly, my space and facebook aren't for young teenagers. Don't think it is cute to dress your teenagers like they are adults and please don't let your teens date any younger than 16 and even at that you might insist that they are allowed to group date only until they are 17 or 18. If they are invited to a party, insist on knowing who is having the party, if the parents are going to be there, and call the parents and make sure they are going to be there. Make sure these parents are on the same page as you are as far as no drinking and that the kids will be properly chaperoned. Furthemore, encourgage your child in their educational goals, encourgage them to be involved in extracurricular activities, (sports, etc.) and be a part of these activities. Don't just take them to practices and games and dump them out and return when the event is over. (This applies to all ages,not just teens) Be there for them, support them, cheer them on, celebrate with them when they win and console them when they lose. In other words, be a PARENT!!!!!!!! You brought this child/children into the world and your job isn't done until they are grown and on their on. |
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08/11/2008 11:51:51 AM
JBT: "Pregnant 13yos are probably sexual abuse victims rather than typical teen pregnancies. Is anybody talking to these kids about how to defend and report, or is it all just shaming them with virginity talk?"No, JBT, not necessarily. Not THESE days. Perhaps when you and I were 13, that would've most likely been the case. Things have changed....ALOT. I agree with the rest of your post though. I have a 13 year old with many friends of her own age from school....I cannot believe that ALL of these premiscuous 13 yr. old boys AND girls (these days, it is NOT normal for them NOT to be having sex, or at least "acting" like they are) I cannot believe that we can just assume that they are most likely sexual abuse victims. Some could be, sure. But with the outlook they have at that age you cannot immediately blame it on sexual abuse. Most likely than anything, it is more like "absentee parenting." The parental bodies are there, but it doesn't go much futher than that. Some of this could be blamed on society and economy. (Both parents end up having to work so much that they do not have the time or energy to take care of those precious beings that they created, other than feeding and clothing them.) And then, there ARE just those parents who don't care until AFTER it's too late for prevention. These kids role models are whatever they see on TV. Their best friends are their cell phones (texting, and UNlearning real communication skills) and their hobby/addiction is Myspace. At any rate, children need to be educated concerning these matters at home. We have seen how well things turn out when we send them off to be taken care of by the government on a daily basis. (yes, I'm talking about school systems). It is absolutely nuts of us to depend on the school systems or even the churches to teach our children these things. We talk about the problem being low self esteem, that is a problem that should be solved through parenting, not schools and churches. We talk about enforcing more positive activites, and directing them to care more about their future. That comes from parenting. Not schools and churches. I'm glad that there are people worried about it. But it isn't going to do much good to go around teaching abstinance to someone ELSE's kids. Teach the Parents how to do it. Handing out "bandaids" in the form of condoms, BC pills, etc. isn't the solution either. Find a way to get parents involved in these children's lives in a positive way. It's then and ONLY then that we could expect any of these programs to actually "work." Now, I understand that there are instances, such as the one described below...where the parents were involved and tried their best, yet it still happened. That's why we must look at these children as individuals, rather than grouping them together as if they all have one identity, then letting the government decide what they should know about sex. Our young people ARE individuals, and the same "formula" doesn't work for all of them. Then there are some that no formula works for. In those cases, I see no need to look back and think, "what if." Just learn a lesson that there is no fail-proof way to prevent teen pregnancy. But understand that until parents begin to CARE more, we will continue to see an increase in this....ESPECIALLY at ages younger than 17. |
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08/11/2008 07:51:59 AM
I would somewhat agree with those who say that there are no consequences for getting pregnant these days. It's like no big deal if you have a baby in High School. I have teenage boys and have told them what they need to know and beware of little girls(some of them still in Elementary School) trying to act older. Some of it is the media and some their parents allowing them to wear high heels and makeup at 10 years old. They think they are cute but they entice older boys. I see young girls all the time being told by older boys that they are pretty and as someone mentioned low self esteem, they buy into it.I agree with JBT that it also has a lot to do with how they look at the future. Look at the low graduation rate. Parents need to encourage their kids to stay in school and businesses need to emphasize how important a diploma is. It should not be that it is rare to find someone with a diploma, it should be the norm. I also believe that you can teach all the religious beliefs you want but I'm sure you will find that many of the pregnant kids come from good religious families. |
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08/10/2008 08:21:18 PM
I think the word everyone is looking for is: SELF-ESTEEM. |
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08/10/2008 07:39:12 PM
Pregnant 13yos are probably sexual abuse victims rather than typical teen pregnancies. Is anybody talking to these kids about how to defend and report, or is it all just shaming them with virginity talk?What I recall from high school sex education is a lot of focus on reproduction but very little open discussion about the emotional aspects of sexuality. Hopefully that has changed. I hope today's kids are being taught about rape (starting with a simple definition, since too many young people don't recognize that rape is just non-consentual sex.) I hope girls are being taught to be wary of date rape drugs and other situations in which they may lose their ability to control their destiny. I hope also that some of the double standards (she's a slut, he's a stud) are being addressed and those myths exploded. Those double standards contribute to the problem, imho. Also, I don't think a high teen pregnancy rate is necessarily caused by a high rate of sexual activity. More likely it is caused by an environment where students do not feel excited about their future, do not have clear goals, and do not understand the possibilities. Teaching them the negatives of early parenthood is a good idea, but it may be even more important to teach them things that have nothing to do with pregnancy -- things like how to get scholarships, how to raise their SAT or ACT score, and what life has to offer out there. Softball and debate club could be better pregnancy prevention than virginity covenants or free condoms. Kids who have clear goals are less likely to engage in risky behavior. They feel they have a lot at stake and they don't want to mess it up. Jeannie |
Comments: 1542 Joined: 01/08/2006 |
08/10/2008 01:27:06 PM
I don't have a problem with informing them of ways to prevent pregnancy, but we have been doing that for years and it still hasn't stemmed the tide of teenage pregnancies. I used to work at a high school and I think one of the biggest problems is that being pregnant has become a status symbol of sorts. And for many of these girls, life goes on as normal. They finish school (nothing wrong with that), they continue in all extra curricular activities and Mom(grandmom) steps in so she can go about her activities with very few problems. And of course, nothing changes for the boy as well. His life continues, he does what he wants and probably even goes on to date and possibly father more out of wedlock children. In my years working at the high school, I also saw several girls have more than one child while still in school. We provide them free daycare, they can get foodstamps, WIC, etc. Maybe if they had to drop out, both the girl and the boy and get real jobs and have to provide for themselves and the child they brought into this world they might think twice. Now, before I get slammed, I am not advocating dropping out of school, but when our kids see that Susie gets pregnant and everyone makes a big deal out of it and she continues in school, she goes back to playing sports, being in the band, cheerleading, etc. after she has the baby. She goes to the prom, goes out every weekend, while free daycare takes care of her baby during the day and grandparents take care of the weekends. To them, what is the big deal?? Now, I know it is not this way for every girl, some of them don't have any kind of support system and they do end up dropping out of school and living off of welfare.Instead of more programs teaching about birth control, how about more programs teaching them what it is like to be a parent and to have to work full time, manage a budget and a household, without help from parents or the government. How about teaching them more about STD's and how they can affect the rest of their lives and their health. After all birth control products do not protect from STD's and suppose your daughter uses birth control and doesn't ever get pregnant, but has multiple sex partners and ends up with all kinds of health problems and ultimately ends up with a hysterectomy or worse dies. No, she didn't get pregnant in high school, but now when she has grown up and has married and wants to have children, but she can't, at least not her own. By the way, did anyone read how many 13, 14, and 15 years olds had babies in this article? What nutcase parent lets their 13 (or 12 ) year old date and be allowed to be in a situation where she could have sex? |
Comments: 28 Joined: 02/04/2008 |
08/10/2008 09:47:23 AM
If you want to teach "abstinence only" programs that's fine. I agree with teaching abstinence. But.... if the goal is to reduce unplanned pregnancies you are going to have to use other tools, ALONG WITH, abstinence programs. Abstinence programs alone are not doing the job. I imagine there is enough evidence out there to prove that.You say you can't teach more than abstinence because it will be confusing. Maybe so... in some cases. But we are going to have to go after the problem of unplanned pregnancies with a complete aresenal. There are those who were not brought up in church and have no ties whatsoever to the church or the teachings of Jesus Christ. That is another area to address, however they also need to be informed on the other ways to prevent unplanned pregnancies. Fact it.... there are teens that are going to have sex;regardless of their upbringing or even their intention not to. Are we going to be part of the solution or keep perpetuating the problem. I think the task force is on the right track!!! I want to reduce the problem using all methods available. |
Comments: 1542 Joined: 01/08/2006 |
08/10/2008 07:47:30 AM
ofmiceandmen, Sometimes even with all that we do, it will still happen. I think one of the biggest problems is that it is so acceptable in our schools, that in spite of what we teach them at home, they don't see it as wrong. That is why the schools need to be involved in teaching abstinence and respect for themselves and others. As Ringgoldone said, we need to teach our children that their body is a temple and they should treat it as such. That being said, I do know what you mean, sometimes in spite of trying to teach them what is right, they will still do what is wrong. |
Comments: 615 Joined: 07/24/2006 |
08/10/2008 07:37:43 AM
For parents of teenagers, you should read "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" by Joshua Harris.It is more than teaching abstinence. They need to know they have specially and uniquely created by God, the opposite of what they are taught in public school. They need to know that it is not their body to do with as they please - it is the body that God created just for them and only He has the right to dictate how it is used, and that is not the message they get from public schools and our society. They need to understand that dating only puts two teenagers into a situation where their will most likely will not supercede their hormones. They need to focus their energies on becoming the man or woman God wants them to be, and trusting Him to provide a mate when they are ready and not some process of selection and rejection. What about when they turn 18? Perhaps if they experience the consistent love and protection of parents who do hold them accountable for where they are and who they are with, they will not be so eager to leave the nest. They can learn independence at home and can save up a nest egg so they don't run headlong into debt before and after they get married. |
Comments: 1 Joined: 08/10/2008 |
08/10/2008 01:21:01 AM
We did all the right things, didn't allow our daughter to date until she was 16, told her of the consequences of premarital sex, talked with her on a regular basis about abstinence, we went to church as a family, but still she had a baby when she was a senior. After her baby was born, it was almost a weekly thing for her to tell me that another student was either pregnant or thought they were pregnant. Don't ever think it could never happen in your family, because it just might. You would be shocked at the girls from the "best" families, and don't forget it takes two to tango, With our support, our daughter graduated high school and will soon graduate from college. She was lucky, we had the means to help her and insurance to pay the dr and hospital bills and to take care of the baby without her having to resort to welfare and food stamps. I don't know what the solution to this problems is. If only it were as simple as just teaching abstinence. |
Comments: 1542 Joined: 01/08/2006 |
08/09/2008 08:49:48 AM
Irishred, I agree with you that hormones can take over, but maybe if parents would do a better job in teaching their kids about abstinence it could make a difference. It might also make a difference if parents didn't allow 13 year olds to date and to dress and act much older then they are. We are never going to totally prevent teen pregnancies, but I think we can stem the tide with some common sense and more abstinence based programs. We need to teach our kids, boys and girls, to stay out of situations and places where things can get out of hand. Even if you give out condoms at school, in the heat of the moment, most teenagers aren't going to be responsible enough to stop and put one on. I guess the only surefire method would be to put all of our daughters on the pill around the age of 10 or 11 and I don't really think this is a good idea either. How about parents, Churches, and schools all working together to teach kids that sex is for marriage and it is ordained by God. How about more programs that show them that for every partner they have, it mulitplies by the number of partners that person has? How about showing them more graphic films about what a sexually transmitted disease does to a person and how it can affect them for the rest of their lives? How about teaching our sons and daughters that the boy/girls they are dating might not become their spouse, but someday will be somebody's spouse and to respect that boy/girl enough not to have sex outside of marriage. |
Comments: 593 Joined: 01/19/2007 |
08/09/2008 08:21:21 AM
Yomoma, I guess you haven't noticed that abstinence doesn't work 100% or there wouldn't be so many teen pregnancies. You can teach it all you want but when it comes down to it hormones can take over. I'm not saying you are wrong to believe in it but in the real world, not too many kids are practicing it. |
Comments: 3 Joined: 08/07/2008 |
08/08/2008 09:14:00 AM
I assumed the Walker County Teen Pregnancy Task Force had already acquired their plan for our county and made my objections in an earlier post. I do want to make an adjustment to that post...I was emailed today stating from one of the members of the task force that the breakfast this week was simply an informational meeting and the task force has of yet adopted a plan to date. I was told the meeting was informational and therefore retract my statements that they had already adopted the plan. However, this was the assumed understanding to other people in attendance as well. This should have been made clear as part of the meeting, but I have integrity and will admit when I am wrong. I was wrong to assume the task force had already formulated a plan. I was correct, however, in my views regarding my support of sexual abstinence. Thank you, Tommy Vowell Flintstone, GA |
Comments: 3 Joined: 08/07/2008 |
08/07/2008 12:45:16 PM
I was in attendance at the Walker County Teen Pregnancy Task Force meeting at the Walker County Civic Center on Tuesday, August 5. I was invited through the Walker County Family Connection, an agency that has my ongoing support. I went as a Youth Pastor of a local Walker County church and sat at a table with three clergy, a school board member and a representative from the office of Martin Scott. My interest towards the issue of the rising teen pregnancy rate in our county is one I have witnessed in the over five years I have lived and worked in Walker County. The issue caught my attention because our church is offering a commitment service towards the “True Love Waits” abstinence campaign in February 2009. Also in attendance were several fine community leaders who, frankly, do most of the work in our county, but receive little credit for their services. It goes without being said often that these people are the heroes of Walker County. During the meeting, Ms. Sharp, representing the G-CAPP, stated many convincing statistics and facts concerning the nature of teen pregnancy statewide as well as in our county. Ms. Jackson, of Walker County Schools, presented interesting and alarming statistics of teen pregnancy rate from Walker County (which The Messenger well represented in its article). I personally was quite well informed and moved to join the task force in its efforts and goals. But, towards the end of the meeting, Ms. Sharp stated five specific behaviors the G-CAPP and, I assume, the task force suggest they want to see occur in the behavior patterns of teens in order to reduce the pregnancy rate in Walker County: (1) Reduced frequency of sex; (2) Reduced incidence of unprotected sex; (3) Increased consistent use of condoms or contraceptives; (4) Reduced number of sexual partners; (5) Delaying sexual initiation. Following an explanation of each of these five desired behaviors Ms. Sharp stated that focusing on any other behavior will not lower the behavior of pregnancy among Walker County teens. As part of her conversation she stated, as reported in The Messenger, that her agency’s research agrees that abstinence is not enough and that “we must incorporate abstinence with other information that teaches a greater audience the facts about teen pregnancy.” Then she encouraged church leaders at the meeting to embrace their partners working down the street that might be teaching the value of contraceptives to teens and added that to do otherwise would create confusion among the teens. I then spoke up at the meeting and simply stated, “You know that is not going to work.” When she asked for clarification, I stated that while I was teaching sexual abstinence that I would not “partner” with any organization that promotes contraceptive use (This, in fact, would lead to confusion for the teens). I also stated that sexual abstinence always leads to zero sexual diseases and zero pregnancies. It is clear that sexual abstinence until marriage is the fail-proof method for teens in order to reduce the teen pregnancy rate in our county (in any county). No one who abstains from sexual activity will contract a sexually transmitted disease nor will they become pregnant. As a resident of Walker County and as a Youth Pastor, I am offended that the training director for G-CAPP suggested that churches cooperate with agencies that are antithetical in their teaching and understanding of sexual practices. I am angered to learn that the teen pregnancy task force apparently has adopted the five behaviors mentioned above without referring and considering the implications of such behavior. For example, instead of insisting upon abstinence the focus is upon lessening the number of sexual partners for a teen. In addition, contraceptive use has been proven to not be effective in protecting against STD’s and pregnancy. Abstinence has been proven to reduce both every time. I agree there is an issue with the rise of teen pregnancies in our county, but I do not agree with the stated intentions of the task force in attempting to reduce the number of pregnancies. I have agreed to continue to be a part of the task force, but only with a view towards sexual abstinence. It may be 2008, but it’s always relevant to abstain from sex until marriage. And I agree that cooperation with county agencies does have positive impact upon our county, but we all must be certain that what we stand for is true and accurate. I am for boosting the families of Walker County. I am for reducing crime in Walker County. I am for community service oriented projects in Walker County. But, I am against anything other than sexual abstinence until marriage. Sincerely, Tommy Vowell Flintstone, GA |
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Again, none of this really matters alot if parents don't step up and be parents. Otherwise, you are just depending on the government to teach your children right from wrong.
Preventative groups and Abstinance clubs are good, but they are just bandaids for wounds that go beyond skin level...